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After test riding a Wee my wife remarked how much better her passenger position was than our C10 Concours. Even to the point that she has given me permission to look into buying one. I have a few questions regarding the Strom.

We ride between 8,000 to 10,000 miles per year almost exclusively two up. I am 6'1" and weigh 300 lbs. My wife is... well..... ah.... Shall we say she has a delightfully Rubenesque figure. I have done a search of the website and have found answers for most of my questions but still have a few.


Based on the many posts here I have already decided on a Vee, but since we have only ridden on a Wee, is there a significant difference in the passenger's riding position / comfort from the Wee to the Vee?

We do go on week long excursions, so large bags are a must. Are there any bag sets we should avoid since they may interfere with the pasenger?

Since it appears that there are many Strom riders with Concours experience, how would you compare the performance, particularly heavily loaded of the Connie C10 vs the Vee?

Color and other cosmetic differences aside, are there any significant production differences between the different years of the Vee?

Thanks for the input, and I apologize in advance to the gods of the forum if my questions are inane or that my searches have not yielded those posts that answer my questions for the umpteenth time.
 

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I had the original Concours, it was an '86 rebuilt with most of a wrecked '98 drivetrain and some other items.

Based on what you said about passenger loading, I would urge you to go with the Vee. You're used to 100 HP, and frankly, when I've had some big people on my Vee I've found it to be sufficiently powered, but no more than that. The Vee will be a lot more fun, it handles and brakes much better than my old Connie.

Wees are great bikes, but there is no replacement for displacement when the loads are large.
 

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Based on the many posts here I have already decided on a V, but since we have only ridden on a Wee, is there a significant difference in the passenger's riding position / comfort from the Wee to the Vee?
The stock seat is slightly different between the two bikes, but the difference is in seat height. The other dimensions are the same.
 

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I'm a bit larger than you (6'3" and short for my weight)and I won't comment on my loving wife........but we do very well on the 1K. It's very comfortable for the 2 of us. I don't travel with the top box when my wife rides pilon, I'd be humping the tank and that's just painful. The 1K has ample power loaded, no sport bike mind you but it does get'er down the road fine.
 

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Goodbye Ms.Piggy

I got rid of my Concours (Ms. Piggy) simply because she was just too damn heavy. I bought a Vee (Freya) and love it. She's at least 200lbs. lighter than the Connie with just as much grunt.

I -do- miss the sound of Ms.Piggy winding up to 12Krpms. She had a nice sound...

:D
 

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I have owned both the Conny and the Vee. The conny is typical Kawacrappy. I have never been a fan of the brand. The Conny was comfy, and pretty powerful, but the Vee does everything better.

The Vee is faster, lighter, more comfortable, and funner to ride.
 

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  1. Sargent stocks a more plush saddle than stock and they ship pretty quickly: not sure about others. The Suzuki Tall Touring saddle is 1/2" thicker in front, about $200.
  2. Depends on what you mean by really large bags. The Jesses and Micatech aluminum bags are about 37L, but there are some 45L Givis. With a top case you are in the ballpark with the big touring machines.
  3. The front forks are significantly under sprung for what you have in mind: aftermarket shocks are about $100, Sonic is popular. Ditto the rear shock: you can upgrade the spring, but most people in your shoes would buy a rebuildable custom shock (with adjustable preload, rebound, and compression damping, about $1,000) and sell the stock shock unit as a takeoff. There's still a $995 group buy on Elkas.
  4. Was at a Total Control course with a new Concours 14 owner and noticed his windshield had a NACA duct in it. He told me the stock windshield was notorious for buffeting and he'd replaced it with a California Scientific. Guess what?
 

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Garandman, Thanks for the info With all the options out there on bags, I was concerned that if I got larger ones they may intrude into the Passenger Space or interfere with her riding position. From looking at some of the pictures it looks like some of the bags are more designed for solo travel, and the tops of some of the bags are so high that someone who carries around alot of their own seat padding may end up sitting partialy on the bag, or having their legs pushed forward by the front. Is this correct or are all the bags designed not to interfere with the passenger regardless of how well padded?

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Not at all, that is just the angle of the pics.

First off, it would have to be an incredibly wide "rear end" to hang that far over the sides to even reach the bags, and even if it did, most bags are a couple of inches lower than the pillion seat.





 

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I -do- miss the sound of Ms.Piggy winding up to 12Krpms. She had a nice sound...

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Have to agree with Janice - winding out the Connie's inline 4 was lots of fun - She had the soul of a true Ninja.

The C10 was also a great sport touring platform with big time sport touring performance at a decent price. That's why it stuck around almost unchanged for 21 years.

The Vee is a different kind of motorcycle. Lighter weight, less protection from wind and weather, different power band, lots of fun to ride and very easy to live with.

If you are convinced that it is the bike for you, you can fit yours out with the luggage, seat and suspension you need. The aftermarket support is great - just like the Connie. And the knowledge base you will find online is great - also just like the Connie.

Cheers,
 

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My wife and I are large people. Both of us and luggage go about 600+ lbs. If you notice I ride a wee. I find it very comfortable and not lacking in power. As we live in the Sierra Nevada foothills and ride all around California we do not have any trouble with speed or power. I fabricated an extention that moves the trunk back about 10 inches to make more room on the seat. I believe that the vee may suit you but dont rule out the wee. My wife and I swear by it. Changed the front sprocket to 14 tooth as to have better control around slower tighter turns. Good Luck.
 
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