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2015 Wee. 20,000 miles. Zero Farkles or mods.
3 months ago, I was training a new rider/driver on my bike.
At zero speed, she dropped it once on the left; broke the front signal and bent the clutch lever.
As zero speed, she also dropped it once on the right; scuffed the paint on the tank but nothing else was evident.

Fast forward to today.
I'm in first gear approaching a red-light, I heard the Starter engage when I pulled in the clutch lever. (WTH?)
I came home to evaluate.

In my driveway, I get the following scenarios.

1. Bike in neutral.
Kickstand is down.
Red button (at right thumb) "Kill Switch" is set to Do-Not-Start.
Turn the ignition key to ON.
Fuel pump does NOT engage/prime.
I pull the clutch lever in and the Starter engages until I release the clutch lever.

2. Bike in neutral.
Kickstand is down.
Red button (at right thumb) "Kill Switch" is set to Start.
Turn the ignition key to ON.
Fuel pump DOES engage/prime.
I pull the clutch lever in and the Starter engages and the engine starts and runs beautifully.
I can use the key or the kill switch to kill the engine.

3. Bike transmission is in 2nd gear.
Kickstand is down.
Red button (at right thumb) "Kill Switch" is set to either Do-Not-Start OR to Start (has same effect)
Turn the ignition key to ON.
Fuel pump does NOT engage/prime.
I pull the clutch lever in and the Starter engages until I release the clutch lever; and the bike lurches forward because transmission is in-gear and the starter is rotating.

4. Bike transmission is in 2nd gear.
Kickstand is UP.
Red button (at right thumb) "Kill Switch" is set to Do-Not-Start.
Turn the ignition key to ON.
Fuel pump does NOT engage/prime.
I pull the clutch lever in and the Starter engages until I release the clutch lever; and the bike lurches forward because transmission is in-gear and the starter is rotating.

5. Bike transmission is in 2nd gear.
Kickstand is UP.
Red button (at right thumb) "Kill Switch" is set to Start.
Turn the ignition key to ON.
Fuel pump DOES engage/prime.
I pull the clutch lever in and the Starter engages and the engine starts and runs beautifully.
I put the kickstand Down and the fuel cuts off and the engine dies.
The starter is still engaged while I have the clutch lever pulled in. I must use key to turn off the bike so it doesn't lurch forward.

The kickstand safety switch physically moves as as the kickstand is raised/lowered. (appears mechanically normal)
In any of the scenarios above, I NEVER pressed the black-starter-button next to the throttle.

Any suggestions for a fix?
or Which components I should replace first?

Thanks in advance. kystrom
 

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Sounds like the starter button or the starter solenoid is stuck closed

My first choice would be the solenoid as I don't think the starter button will power the starter once the motor is running. (not sure never tried it)
 
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Ok I had a think about it and I'm leaning towards the starter switch now.

If it was the solenoid it would not require the clutch switch to activate the starter.
 
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Automotive lighting Finger Gadget Bumper Camera accessory


Above is what i found that was causing my constant starter engagement.
I cleaned the burnt solder and ensured no short-circuits and the bike behaves just like it should. YAY.
I'm extremely subpar with electrical devices. I've asked a friend to help that can make beautiful solder connections.
As of now, I consider the problem solved.
Thanks to the forum for helpful info.

I want to give Kudo's to this guy .... Start Switch Maintenance
He put together a very nice photo/instructions for this start-button kill-switch assembly.
 

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Was there any visible damage to the switch housing? I am wondering if the fall damaged something enough to cause the short or if it is just coincidence.
Anytime I see a short, I start to wonder why it happened in the first place.
 

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Do you have headlight relays fitted ?

There is a big load put through that switch block, relays should be fitted to reduce the load
 

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Was there any visible damage to the switch housing? I am wondering if the fall damaged something enough to cause the short or if it is just coincidence.
Anytime I see a short, I start to wonder why it happened in the first place.
No damage to the kill-switch housing. Not even the lightest scuff.
 

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You can buy a plug & play kit.
 
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