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i have recently bought a 2005 v strom 1000 with 18000 miles on clock .and some times when setting its like a tractor juddering .like the clutch is grabbing not slipping .but some times its fine .and its no trouble on the go .is it faulty or a v strom .trait
 

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i have recently bought a 2005 v strom 1000 with 18000 miles on clock .and some times when setting its like a tractor juddering .like the clutch is grabbing not slipping .but some times its fine .and its no trouble on the go .is it faulty or a v strom .trait
Mine does the same thing recently bought mine too, its exactly how you explained it only happens when taking off in first gear what is up with that:headbang:
Did you find out ant info?
 

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Mine does the same thing recently bought mine too, its exactly how you explained it only happens when taking off in first gear what is up with that:headbang:
Did you find out ant info?
Look at the post above you. ;)
 

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You could have "glazed clutch plates"

Pull them and a light flat sanding and also to swap the first like 3 or 4 in positions

It is also possible if there is a bubble so bleed the system
 

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Mine does the same thing recently bought mine too, its exactly how you explained it only happens when taking off in first gear what is up with that:headbang:
Did you find out ant info?

For a long time the only thing we worried about on DL 1000 clutches was "chudder". That is permanently fixable now. But in the past couple years I was hearing about what I will call "clutch slap" for lack of a better term. Electrojake was one of the first ones to post about it here and on other forums. Not always repeatable but comes about more often when trying to slip the clutch a bit on a hard takeoff. All of a sudden it just seems to grab and lock up. Which can be very unsettling if you are in the middle of a low speed maneuver or trying to get across an intersection.

My Vee never acted like that so I cannot relate to it. But, in the 4 cases I can think of each one said a modified clutch basket eliminated it totally.
 

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Mine does the same thing recently bought mine too, its exactly how you explained it only happens when taking off in first gear what is up with that:headbang:
Did you find out ant info?
Since it's only happening in first gear there's also the possibility that the clutch slave pin has enough debris adhered to it that it's hanging. This was happening to mine when using Belray chain lube requiring steel wool to remove. I've since switched to a wet lube without further problems. I believe this was not Jakes problem however.
It sounds like the OP's question was in regards to the bike "setting" which sounds more like the neutral chatter most get until the clutch lever is depressed
 

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I had the same problem on my '05 DL1000 which I bought new. I can't remember when the judder first happened but it was well into the life of the machine, possibly at about 15000 - 20000 kms. The judder didn't happen at every pull-away but would often happen on an uphill. It wasn't possible to induce it but it would happen at least once every ride. I always used the same semi-synthetic oil from new, but at the 84000 km oil change interval, I changed to Castrol Actevo. Since then the machine has done about 500 kms without a hint of a judder.

I don't think it's a wear problem on the clutch assembly - the oil drain magnetic plug has no accumulated debris when inspected at the oil change. I have the filter inspected at a laboratory occasionally and the contaminants are negligible.

The engine seems to be in good condition - the oil consumption is almost nil. I inspected the valve clearances recently (first time since new) and was surprised to see the exhaust valve clearances still at specification and the inlets only marginally under specification. The only tricky part was refitting the valve cover on the rear cylinder - there's not much space to manoeuver the cover and gasket with the large wiring loom causing obstruction and get the semi-circle seals in place.
 

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I don't think it's a wear problem on the clutch assembly - the oil drain magnetic plug has no accumulated debris when inspected at the oil change. I have the filter inspected at a laboratory occasionally and the contaminants are negligible.
There won't be any particles on the magnetic drain plug. The parts that wear badly are not iron based. There won't be any particles in the filter from the aluminum and I don't think an oil analysis will show any unusual amounts of aluminum. The bearing surface will wear some and that is where some micron sized aluminum will come from. But very little at each oil inspection as wear is gradual. The real problem with clutch basket wear is metal displacement. Meaning that the plate and springs hammer the aluminum and move it rather than wear it off or break off chunks. The metal is still there, just displaced. That is where the extra clearance or slack comes from, which is where the problems come from. Once the wear gets bad enough it gets worse quickly as the loose parts hammer harder. A modified clutch basket eliminates this movement so there can be no wear from parts moving back and forth. The modified bearings keep everything aligned so there is almost no wear there again.

I have heard of owners that found improvement when changing oil or oil types. Especially with the clutch slap or jerky engagement described above. All so far that I followed said the problem came back. 500km is not a lot of distance, let us know how it does going forward.
 

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For a long time the only thing we worried about on DL 1000 clutches was "chudder". That is permanently fixable now. But in the past couple years I was hearing about what I will call "clutch slap" for lack of a better term. Electrojake was one of the first ones to post about it here and on other forums. Not always repeatable but comes about more often when trying to slip the clutch a bit on a hard takeoff. All of a sudden it just seems to grab and lock up. Which can be very unsettling if you are in the middle of a low speed maneuver or trying to get across an intersection.

My Vee never acted like that so I cannot relate to it. But, in the 4 cases I can think of each one said a modified clutch basket eliminated it totally.
My Vee would do that...even after the Weeks basket....but you sure fixed that chudder.
 

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As I mentioned, the judder would happen at least once every ride. Now that the machine has completed 500 kms since the oil brand change without recurrence, I'm fairly confident that it is solved.

By the way (a bit off topic), the oil and filter analysis is quite comprehensive. The contaminants are measured by parts per million (sometimes single numbers), with sixteen elements measured in the filter and six in the oil. The filter is also inspected visually for organic contaminants. I plot the results after each analysis, so am able to see a trend.

It's just a way a getting a warning of failure, rather than waiting for the part to fail.
 

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I've had the "clutch grab" problem since I bought the bike (used) nearly three years ago. The problem remains but has not worsened in 30,000km. Changing the oil improves the situation very temporarily. I don't think I have clutch chudder, I would be quite happy with the clutch if it wouldn't grab in first gear when I am trying to escape traffic.

My plan has always been to install the Werks basket and replace all the plates at the same time. I'll get around to it sometime this year I think.
 

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i have recently bought a 2005 v strom 1000 with 18000 miles on clock .and some times when setting its like a tractor juddering .like the clutch is grabbing not slipping .
...but some times its fine .and its no trouble on the go .is it faulty or a v strom .trait
Perhaps your problem is clutch-slap? :confused:
Here are two old links on the topic...

Stromtrooper--> http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000-2002-2012/69809-clutch-slap-undocumented.html

VRiders--> Clutch-Slap Undocumented?

IMHO the WERKS basket will cure all ills be they idle hammer, clutch slap, or chudder.
 
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