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Rode with several BMW owners yesterday, and noticed Clearwater brand accessory lights being popular in this group.

Anyone here have any first hand experience?

They are expensive, USA made lights, and from what I saw definitely too bright if used at 100%. But they can be dimmed, and a guy riding behind me had them at 10% and with yellow lens covers, which looked great in daylight conditions.

Clearwater has a new line, Glendina, which is smaller and less powerful (10W/1A), but only has two brightness settings, low and high beam. They also cost only half of their other lights. Since I don't want anything too bright I might consider getting these. They mount either to the crash bars or to the fork.
 

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Any chinese light with an american rebrand will be much more expensive than a chinese brand.

My chinese lights can scare a moose off the road.

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Any chinese light with an american rebrand will be much more expensive than a chinese brand.

My chinese lights can scare a moose off the road.

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Are you saying the Clearwater lights are made in China?
 

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Their website says they are made in Cali & I am sure they are great lights, but I will not pay $600 for any lights on any veh I own. Yes I am cheap, but there are many lower priced alternatives & the one's on my bike cost about $25 and have been 'on' every time the key comes on for 20K miles with no issues.
 

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We have a set up for each V-Strom that includes lights, light bar, and wiring harness for between $150 to $165. The lights are made for us and extremely bright (seriously bright, 1100 Lumen each, 1.5 amp total) and our custom harness has evolved over the years to be as easy to install as red to battery positive, black to battery negative, and white to a switched source.

Suzuki Auxiliary LED Lighting - AdventureTech, LLC.
 

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Are you saying the Clearwater lights are made in China?
They are cree leds, which are made in huizhou, last i checked?

I could be wrong.

I checked their homepage, it baffles me how much people are willing to pay for lights :surprise:
 

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Their website says they are made in Cali & I am sure they are great lights, but I will not pay $600 for any lights on any veh I own. Yes I am cheap, but there are many lower priced alternatives & the one's on my bike cost about $25 and have been 'on' every time the key comes on for 20K miles with no issues.
They have a new line, Glendina, for $279. Compared to the other companies I see out there who sell $20 Chinese lights for $300 (Cyclops, Denali?, ...) I think the Clearwaters look like a better way to spend money, on a truly US made and supported product.

I looked for inexpensive options on all the usual sites, Aliexpress, EBay, Amazon etc. but can’t find what I am looking for:

- yellow lens (not amber)
- current draw not to exceed 1A per light
- available crash bar mounting brackets and decent looking hardware
 

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I have a set of $25 leds from China. Extremely bright and if you are looking for low cost conspicuity the Banggood offerings may be a good choice.
The BMW set has an image to maintain and they will spend huge sums to get the presumed best.
Mind how you mount them. Mine are in a poor location and have suffered a bit in fall overs in the dirt. They are still working though badly treated.
One BMW fellow had his destroyed when mounted under the beak and he hadn't allowed for full fork travel. A good dip shoved the fender into his expensive lights and bashed them to death.
Mine are mounted to the outside of the crash bars so they hit first.
 

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They have a new line, Glendina, for $279. Compared to the other companies I see out there who sell $20 Chinese lights for $300 (Cyclops, Denali?, ...) I think the Clearwaters look like a better way to spend money, on a truly US made and supported product.

I looked for inexpensive options on all the usual sites, Aliexpress, EBay, Amazon etc. but can’t find what I am looking for:

- yellow lens (not amber)
- current draw not to exceed 1A per light
- available crash bar mounting brackets and decent looking hardware

If you're wanting lights more for conspicuity then illumination the light install I did is working well for me. They are bright but the beam pattern is not focused enough to not annoy oncoming drivers IMO. I have them pointed down quite a bit.

Thread: Yeller Lights
 

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We have a set up for each V-Strom that includes lights, light bar, and wiring harness for between $150 to $165. The lights are made for us and extremely bright (seriously bright, 1100 Lumen each, 1.5 amp total) and our custom harness has evolved over the years to be as easy to install as red to battery positive, black to battery negative, and white to a switched source.

Suzuki Auxiliary LED Lighting - AdventureTech, LLC.
Hi Rick,
Fully aware of your excellent products, and you are selling them for a fair price as a complete fitted package, compared to other "manufactured to our US specs in China" vendors. If you could source some yellow lens covers I would be your customer. Yellow is super visible without being annoying, to my perception anyway, so this is what I want for my bike.
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If you're wanting lights more for conspicuity then illumination the light install I did is working well for me. They are bright but the beam pattern is not focused enough to not annoy oncoming drivers IMO. I have them pointed down quite a bit.

Thread: Yeller Lights
Thanks for pointing out this thread. Did you ever measure the current draw? No problem simply hooking into the taillight cable and associated fuse?
 

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If you're wanting lights more for conspicuity then illumination the light install I did is working well for me. They are bright but the beam pattern is not focused enough to not annoy oncoming drivers IMO. I have them pointed down quite a bit.

Thread: Yeller Lights
Hogges -- I agree with Spec. I followed that thread on Yeller Lights earlier this year and bought those $20 yellow lights. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9HHPK5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=vs-powersports-convert-amazon-20
I have them mounted to the outside of my forks with a homemade brace that uses existing bolts -- the fender bolt and the reflector bolt. These cheapo lights are fantastic.
 

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Thanks for pointing out this thread. Did you ever measure the current draw? No problem simply hooking into the taillight cable and associated fuse?

The lights are 20 watts so about 1.6 amps @ 12 volts. There is a 10 watt single LED here. Not yellow but you could use yellow film under the lens cover: Lamin-X yellow

The wire harness has a relay with a wire out for a toggle switch or switched power. The wire I tapped into going to the tail light was the closest switched power. Crimped the relay wire into it, easy.
 

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Interesting, didn’t know people put films on headlights. I am still leaning towards the Clearwaters, although I don’t usually shy from taking a gamble on chinese products, if only for the DIY/ no-one else has it exactly like me aspect. My $12 heated grips are awesome, for example.
 

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My LEDrider lights are on par with some Clearwaters on a buddy's BMW, at half the cost. 6x10w emitters (~5.2A) in each housing, deep dish reflector for a long range pencil beam, coupled with a Skene dimmer for daytime running lights. Pair of lights + Skene dimmer was about $350 and worth every penny.

I've had $10-40 amazon/ebay chinese lights and they are good for being seen in daytime, but not for seeing an elk/moose 500 yards away while riding 60-80mph at midnight. The LEDrider's have saved my butt multiple times, and are the reason I can ride at night through the forests of Colorado, NM, UT, and WY.

Only drawback is the size and weight of each light. They cannot be mounted from the headlight fairing, only crash bars or similar hefty structure.
 
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