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I saw Chinese GPS on eBay claimed to be waterproof.
Any one has a good experience with them? and do you recommend that?
I may eventually go with a Zu:smile2:mo , but want to know about these less expensive too.
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A link to said GPS would be nice.
I make do with A car style GPS and a Ram Aqua Box to keep it clean and dry.
What support does the Chinese unit offer? The car types I get for about $100 have life time live traffic and maps downloads.
 

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A link to said GPS would be nice.
I make do with A car style GPS and a Ram Aqua Box to keep it clean and dry.
What support does the Chinese unit offer? The car types I get for about $100 have life time live traffic and maps downloads.
.Yes you are right, but I did not want to promote any brand here.

https://www.amazon.com/Koolertron-Terrain-Waterproof-Motorcycle-Navigation/dp/B00UUS4CM4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8
on EBAY and amazon have this with different names , but I think:smile2: they are all the same , even waterproof.
Please let me know what you think , starting price is 100ish , depending on extra offers go to 130ish.
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I'd see posting a link is a problem. Just making folks aware of what you found. Sometimes it's helpful for ignoring or for going for a product.
I get ads from Bang Good all the time and have gotten some useful items.
it always comes with Caveat Emptor. I had TomTom and Magellan units fail due vibration or a wee bit of rain drops on the face. So to me they were no better than an unknown Chinese device.
 

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I'd see posting a link is a problem. Just making folks aware of what you found. Sometimes it's helpful for ignoring or for going for a product.
I get ads from Bang Good all the time and have gotten some useful items.
it always comes with Caveat Emptor. I had TomTom and Magellan units fail due vibration or a wee bit of rain drops on the face. So to me they were no better than an unknown Chinese device.
your point is valid.
Bang god has it for more expensive that EBAY us provider , so if orderd I would order form Ebay.
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.Yes you are right, but I did not want to promote any brand here.

https://www.amazon.com/Koolertron-Terrain-Waterproof-Motorcycle-Navigation/dp/B00UUS4CM4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims?ie=UTF8
on EBAY and amazon have this with different names , but I think:smile2: they are all the same , even waterproof.
Please let me know what you think , starting price is 100ish , depending on extra offers go to 130ish.
thank you
Ride safe /Ride long
From what I can tell the hardware is good. However, someone pointed out that the software is a mixed bag and your kinda on your own. He wasn't able to find the manufacturer on the site to register for updates. However, that specific device might just be a rebranded one, so with luck you could probably pick a different model and it would just work. Trick is, you would have to find the correct one.

Interestingly, it does run Windows CE 6.0. So theoretically, you could run any GPS software, as long as WinCE is supported. Or solitaire.

So its a neat device from the hardware stand point, but it isn't perfect out of the box. That's kinda the tradeoff with these cheap devices. Hardware is usually good but the support leaves a lot to be desired.
 

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I like GPSTomTom. I had several, and always done their job. Once I bought a Garmin but did not like it and replaced it with a TT. The few tests carried out with Chinese GPS, including the one you show, but under another brand, have been severe failures (hardware and software), almost immediately after the purchase ..
I recently bought a TT rider 450, I am very satisfied, even if he suffered the disease specific to this model (base that no longer works) but it has been changed under warranty, and since, no problem.
So yes, the price is not given, but it is the price of efficiency and tranquility.
I did not wait to buy the new TT550, which does not offer a radical change over mine 450.
 

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I like GPSTomTom. I had several, and always done their job. Once I bought a Garmin but did not like it and replaced it with a TT. The few tests carried out with Chinese GPS, including the one you show, but under another brand, have been severe failures (hardware and software), almost immediately after the purchase ..
I recently bought a TT rider 450, I am very satisfied, even if he suffered the disease specific to this model (base that no longer works) but it has been changed under warranty, and since, no problem.
So yes, the price is not given, but it is the price of efficiency and tranquility.
I did not wait to buy the new TT550, which does not offer a radical change over mine 450.
Thank you for your input, appreciated
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If i had serious dough to drop, i'd run and buy a magellan TRX7CS.

I used to want a chinese gps, but instead of dropping in price over time, they got fewer and more expensive... makes no sense.


Have you seen ppl on youtube making their regular cheap gps waterproof with silicone?
 

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I have a Zumo 665 on my V2 but went with an inexpensive FODSports Chinese tablet on my Versys 300. The current ones are Android 6.0 and BT 4.0 and have 1 GB Ram.

The only issue I knew of on the older ones is Blue-Tooth compatibility with say a Sena. I have had it for six months and is it always on. I have it powered so it turns on and off with key and it works nearly the same as the Zumo. I was running some other apps on the Android and ran the main storage low on space once and started getting warnings but really it has worked well. One big advantages of the Android is you can run apps off of Play Store.

There are a ton of different versions out there so be careful. Different versions of Android and some use CE. Ram varies as well as the BT version. Sometimes the plug-ins are not standard on some brands. Don't count on any support other than the forums although they use standard maps and mine is using the iGO nav software.

I bought from a US warehouse on EBay and got it in three days. About $135. I think my Zumo was about $600+ back when as a model behind the newest at the time. Each has advantages but but both work well. The Zumo should be better and it is in some ways. More robust build. Ultra-compatible with everything, etc. A bit brighter screen but not that much. Better touch control. The Android has more GPS options. Sometimes one mapset or the other has been correct. The Zumo certainly doesn't work any better at navigation for my uses. Most trip creation apps work for both via conversions. Both are waterproof as far as rain goes.

Like Android these are highly configurable. Fonts, colors, screen layouts, etc. If you are more of an iPhone person (prefer it all configured and unchangeable) then they might not be the best fit and the Zumo is a better way to go. You can get in and mess things up on Android. >:) The Koolertron seems pretty far out of date on software and hardware to me in a quick glance. That is the big negative in some of the reviews. Others say the screen is real dim and the plugs aren't standard.

https://www.igonavigation.com/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Android-4-4-WIFI-8GB-Flash-Motorcycle-Car-Bluetooth-GPS-Navigation-Free-maps/202332751712?hash=item2f1bf8c760:g:7FIAAOSwyXNZ7vlJ&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sacat=0&_nkw=motorcycle+gps+navigator&_from=R40&rt=nc

This one is shipping from China but similar and the newer version. Blue-tooth 6.0. I would buy another knowing what I know now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Android-6-0-BT-Motorcycle-Car-GPS-Navigation-16GB-WIFI-Bluetooth-SAT-NAV-Maps/273354500916?hash=item3fa532ab34:g:ciYAAOSwIYxbWoAY&_sacat=0&_nkw=fodsports+gps+android+motorcycle&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0|0


FODSports


Zumo 665
 

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Here is a picture of the FODSports Android tablet GPS from a Picture Game photo (fire truck theme) I took this morning with sunlight hitting the screen. It's really similar to the Zumo viewing although a bit bigger screen. I picked a 3D motorcycle as the vehicle marker. Lots of choices. lol

BTW - the refresh rate on the screen for this model is faster than the Zumo. Nice to see in the twisties.

 

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Here is a picture of the FODSports Android tablet GPS from a Picture Game photo (fire truck theme) I took this morning with sunlight hitting the screen. It's really similar to the Zumo viewing although a bit bigger screen. I picked a 3D motorcycle as the vehicle marker. Lots of choices. lol

BTW - the refresh rate on the screen for this model is faster than the Zumo. Nice to see in the twisties.

are you happy with it? where did you buy it?
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I have a Zumo on my V2 but went with an inexpensive FODSports Chinese tablet on my Versys 300. The current ones are Android 6.0 and BT 4.0 and have 1 GB Ram.

The only issue I knew of on the older ones is Blue-Tooth compatibility with say a Sena. I have had it for six months and is it always on. I have it powered so it turns on and off with key and it works nearly the same as the Zumo. I was running some other apps on the Android and ran the main storage low on space once and started getting warnings but really it has worked well. One big advantages of the Android is you can run apps off of Play Store.

There are a ton of different versions out there so be careful. Different versions of Android and some use CE. Ram varies as well as the BT version. Sometimes the plug-ins are not standard on some brands. Don't count on any support other than the forums although they use standard maps and mine is using the iGO nav software.

I bought from a US warehouse on EBay and got it in three days. About $135. I think my Zumo was about $600+ back when as a model behind the newest at the time. Each has advantages but but both work well. The Zumo should be better and it is in some ways. More robust build. Ultra-compatible with everything, etc. A bit brighter screen but not that much. Better touch control. The Android has more GPS options. Sometimes one mapset or the other has been correct. The Zumo certainly doesn't work any better at navigation for my uses. Most trip creation apps work for both via conversions. Both are waterproof as far as rain goes.

Like Android these are highly configurable. Fonts, colors, screen layouts, etc. If you are more of an iPhone person (prefer it all configured and unchangeable) then they might not be the best fit and the Zumo is a better way to go. You can get in and mess things up on Android. >:) The Koolertron seems pretty far out of date on software and hardware to me in a quick glance. That is the big negative in some of the reviews. Others say the screen is real dim and the plugs aren't standard.

https://www.igonavigation.com/

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Android-4-4-WIFI-8GB-Flash-Motorcycle-Car-Bluetooth-GPS-Navigation-Free-maps/202332751712?hash=item2f1bf8c760:g:7FIAAOSwyXNZ7vlJ&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sacat=0&_nkw=motorcycle+gps+navigator&_from=R40&rt=nc

This one is shipping from China but similar and the newer version. Blue-tooth 6.0. I would buy another knowing what I know now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Android-6-0-BT-Motorcycle-Car-GPS-Navigation-16GB-WIFI-Bluetooth-SAT-NAV-Maps/273354500916?hash=item3fa532ab34:g:ciYAAOSwIYxbWoAY&_sacat=0&_nkw=fodsports+gps+android+motorcycle&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313&LH_TitleDesc=0|0


FODSports


Zumo
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Yes - it meets my requirements for a GPS plus an Android tablet I can use for other things. I did one map update but i emailed the seller to get the map.

It came from Ebay. There are some others on this forum using them as well. I bought this one stateside but I order a lot of stuff from China direct in my other hobbies (RC) and have had no problem and even returned a drone accessory. I never had to go after them with PayPal or anything. I have many more problems buying from California. lol

I would like to upgrade it to the latest one in the link I posted with Android 6.0. Mine is using Android 4.4 (6.0 can run more apps on Play Store I use). It also uses Bluetooth 4.0 where mine is the older 2.0. It also has a faster processor and 1 GB Ram (means faster mainly). I prefer the faster screen refresh rate on the Android. I am not sure if the latest Zumo has sped that up but who wants to spend $700. You can configure it to look pretty close to the Zumo. Note: these are 800x480 resolution. Many of the old TomTom and Zumo's are lower which looks crude. I also added a micro SD chip for my other apps storage.

The latest version FODSports
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273354500916

are you happy with it? where did you buy it?
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Yes - it meets my requirements for a GPS plus an Android tablet I can use for other things. I did one map update but i emailed the seller to get the map.

It came from Ebay. There are some others on this forum using them as well.

I would like to upgrade it to the latest one in the link I posted with Android 6.0. Mine is using Android 4.4 (6.0 can run more apps on Play Store I use). It also uses Bluetooth 4.0 where mine is the older 2.0. It also has a faster processor and 1 GB Ram (means faster mainly). I prefer the faster screen refresh rate on the Android. I am not sure if the latest Zumo has sped that up but who wants to spend $700. You can configure it to look pretty close to the Zumo. Note: these are 800x480 resolution. Many of the old TomTom and Zumo's are lower which looks crude. I also added a micro SD chip for my other apps storage.

The latest version FODSports
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273354500916
Thank you
Will update after I study more , I may end up getting one ,if the mebers are happy, That is what I want to know.
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Did that come with some kind of a shade/cover or did you buy/make it yourself? I would assume these Chinese GPS units would have the typical Android device problem of getting too hot to stay charged, absent some kind of shelter from the sun.

I've been using my Android phone (first a Nexus 5x, now a Moto x4) and OSMAnd+, on a Ram X-mount, for navigation so far. The only big shortcoming (aside from the small screen size) is that it's just hanging out there on the handlebar, and I have no way to give it shade. Poor thing overheats even on the highway, if it's warm out, and then won't charge. At least the Moto x4 is waterproof though. But my USB charger isn't, so in the event of rain I'd have to stow the USB charger, close the cover on my 12V socket, & wait until it stops raining to charge.

I haven't yet had the battery go completely dead during a trip because of overheating, but I'm sure it'll happen sooner or later.
 

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I had to buy one for the expensive Zumo (from China off of Amazon - lol) but the FODSports came with it (sun shade). :wink2: I imagine Garmin might want $50 for a Garmin sun Shade. The mount/power interface so I could move the Zumo to my other bike (back and forth) was nearly as much as the FODSports GPS so I just got the new GPS as a backup.

I did notice on the latest FODSports the sun shade is not as wide as the one I have. The FODSports snaps into the mount and the sun shade is a part of the mount. There is a safety screw as well in the back to hold the GPS in on a hard fall. Well designed, simple, effective, yet inexpensive compared to the Zumo powered mount system.

My FODSports is always powered and goes on and off with the key so the battery is always charged (as is my Zumo on the V2). I have had no heat or other problems. I did replace their mount with a standard Ram ball. It almost looks like they just went to the standard Ram mount in the picture now on the latest one. I would ask the seller.

I haven't noticed any heating issues with my Samsung Galaxy S9+ either on a Ram X mount. It works perfectly and it is always charging as well on the bikes and stays at 100%. I play music frequently (Amazon Prime). I avoid rain as much as possible but both GPS's do fine. LOL

Did that come with some kind of a shade/cover or did you buy/make it yourself? I would assume these Chinese GPS units would have the typical Android device problem of getting too hot to stay charged, absent some kind of shelter from the sun.

I've been using my Android phone (first a Nexus 5x, now a Moto x4) and OSMAnd+, on a Ram X-mount, for navigation so far. The only big shortcoming (aside from the small screen size) is that it's just hanging out there on the handlebar, and I have no way to give it shade. Poor thing overheats even on the highway, if it's warm out, and then won't charge. At least the Moto x4 is waterproof though. But my USB charger isn't, so in the event of rain I'd have to stow the USB charger, close the cover on my 12V socket, & wait until it stops raining to charge.

I haven't yet had the battery go completely dead during a trip because of overheating, but I'm sure it'll happen sooner or later.
 
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