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I have a 2020 650 vstrom with 20,000 kms. At the end of my first year with 11,000 i noticed some of the o rings were torn and coming out of the links of the oem chain. so i replaced it the beginning of this season with a JT Z3 super duty chain... 9k later the chain is toast... it is stretched beyond the pin count , has tons of lateral movement to the point were the linkplates can touch, and wont stay in adjustment... this is my fourth chain driven bike and I have had other chains last mutiple years with higher mileage.

The chain is alinged with the sprockets, I clean (kerosene)and lube (motul spray and paste and recently chain wax) my chain regularly I even stopped using a chain brush on this latest chain thinking it may have hurt my o rings.

I have seen on other posts that the chain tension is considered to small for this bike and should be set between 1.25 TO 1.75... I am a big guy over 250lbs and have always set the tensionto factory specs...
Is this the root of my chain issues??? With luggage gear and myself on the bike is thefactory chain tension setting straining and blowing out my chain... any advice would be welcome.

Thanks
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I have a 2020 650 vstrom with 20,000 kms. At the end of my first year with 11,000 i noticed some of the o rings were torn and coming out of the links of the oem chain. so i replaced it the beginning of this season with a JT Z3 super duty chain... 9k later the chain is toast... it is stretched beyond the pin count, has tons of lateral movement to the point where the link plates can touch, and won't stay in adjustment... this is my fourth chain driven bike and I have had other chains last multiple years with higher mileage.

The chain is aligned with the sprockets, I clean (kerosene) and lube (motul spray and paste and recently chain wax) my chain regularly I even stopped using a chain brush on this latest chain thinking it may have hurt my o rings.

I have seen on other posts that the chain tension is considered to small for this bike and should be set between 1.25 TO 1.75... I am a big guy over 250lbs and have always set the tensionto factory specs...
Is this the root of my chain issues??? With luggage gear and myself on the bike is the factory chain tension setting straining and blowing out my chain... any advice would be welcome.

Thanks
There's your problem!!! NEVER use solvents to 'clean' a chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Solvents can and will remove the factory lube behind the O Rings. Failure will result.
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There's your problem!!! NEVER use solvents to 'clean' a chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Solvents can and will remove the factory lube behind the O Rings. Failure will result.
I had the same reaction--washing regularly with a solvent like kerosene isn't good for the chain.

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i run in the past this '' JT Z3 super duty'' chain as a set with its sprockets, did not last more kms than yours ...
such a piece of crap...
next i used DID VX lasted 30000km, fair enough,
and now i run with DID
ZVM-X Series
as i used to with my superbikes, am happy again !
my current bike, DL650 K5
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FWIW Suzuki factory service manual for the 2012 650 states to clean the chain with kerosene! So Suzuki has changed their recommendation. On the rare occasion that I may actually clean the chain I have used DuPont chain cleaner which is labeled to be O ring safe.

As noted the consensus on chain slack is looser than the factory .8 to 1.2 inches. I run ~1.5 inches.
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Check your hub's cush drive rubber and carrier bearing. If the rubbers are worn, they allow an off-axis load on the bearing. If the bearing fails, then your chain will only be aligned at a standstill.

If your rollers are galled like this, either your alignment is not actually true or your bearing is toast:

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Yes on the cush drive rubber, it was one of my issues.

Owners manual on many bikes recommend kerosene. If mine is fairly in need of cleaning, a wipe with kerosene rag is done but this is maybe once every 2 years.
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Well for this chain i think i will skip the kerosene for cleaning and see what that does for me.... I have used it for years without any issues so this will be a interesting change
The only people I know with chain problems is guys high on chain maintenance.
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I read my user manuals on two new bikes over the past few years. No kerosine. Of note, my older bikes (2006 KLR) specifically lists this cleaner. Read the manuals and trust the engineers...we went to school to learn math and physics, but still just make crap up.

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One nice thing with the Tutoro or other chain oiler is you never have to clean the chain. If it looks dirty, just turn the oil flow up and ride. Centrifugal force will give it an oil clean. You will have to clean the rims however if you want the bike looking presentable.
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FWIW Suzuki factory service manual for the 2012 650 states to clean the chain with kerosene!
Wha....srsly? Not the Gen 3:


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Yup, my Gen 1 (2009) manual also recommends cleaning chain with kerosene. New info must have surfaced that made them change their tune.
New info must have surfaced that made them change their tune.
Yep, they found out kerosene is a lot cheaper than "Suzuki" brand chain cleaner.
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Yup, my Gen 1 (2009) manual also recommends cleaning chain with kerosene. New info must have surfaced that made them change their tune.
Confirmed; I found my Gen 1 manual (2008) and it also recommends kerosene. Pretty sure the chains on these models have not changed, nor has drive chain tech in general for many years, so ... 🤷‍♂️

I've occasionally used a citrus degreaser or Motorex chain cleaner, but usually don't bother; just lube.
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