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I like everything I see and read about the 2012 DL650, but looking for opinions on power. I had a DL1000 that I sold a few years back, and loved it once I had it set up right.

Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage? I never used all the power of the 1000, but it sure was nice to drop a gear and move past anything that was in the way. Not sure if I'll be happy with the power of the 650.

I know "power" is pretty subjective and depends on the weight you are packing. I'm 155 lb, carry about 50 lb of luggage, and don't ride 2-up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
 

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How fast? Are we talking about starting at 55mph and trying to pass, or starting at 70 mph and trying to pass?

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I about 100lbs more than you (weight 250) and I think it has no problems. I went cruising on the Hwy today at about 70 mph and twisted the throttle 1/2 inch and I was at 80 + in no time. Didnt' even open it up. These new bikes are geared well for all ranges. Just my opinion. I had a 2006 V-Strom 650 and this bike is much better in every way.:thumbup:
 

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How fast? Are we talking about starting at 55mph and trying to pass, or starting at 70 mph and trying to pass?

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Accelerating from around 50 MPH up to 75 MPH without having to completely wind it out and wonder if you are ging to make it.
 

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From 50 to 75, as long as you're in 5th, should be fine. I'm not familiar on how much the altutude will affect it, but I weigh the same, carry similar weight, and for a QUICK pass think 5th gear would work just fine. 6th would cruise at 50, but I don't think itll accelerate quick enough without dropping a gear.

That being said, the wee seems to accelerate quick enough starting around 4500. Below that is good cruising, and will accelerate, just not quickly.

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I did this recently. Fully loaded with a week worth of camping gear, going up to 5800 ft, via the Kootenay Pass (Salmo to Creston BC). The pass decently steep and we were heading east to Creston. It's steep to the point where I remember driving it years ago with a 1997 Nissan Pathfinder and I had to floor it and couldn't hold 50 mph.

Overall, I would say the bike performed admirably. In 6th gear I could easily hold 60 - 65 MPH the entire way. By dropping down a gear, I could pop it over 75 MPH+ without too many concerns. It certainly wasn't a rocket, but I could pass any vehicle along the way without going full throttle (but close). I would consistently walk away from my riding partners Yamaha Road King 1600.

Would I like more power? Of course! But overall, the DL650 is all that I have needed. It's not a rocket, but as long as your goal is to keep close to the speed limit and enjoy the scenery, you are going to be satisfied. I came from a high torque R1200C and after a 3500 km trip, I can say that I am more satisfied with the performance of this bike on the highway.

Edit: that 3500 km trip went from Calgary > Waterton Park > Going to the Sun Highway (Glacier) > Kalispell > Sandpoint > Spokane > Grand Coulee Dam > Chelan > Leavenworth > Anacortes > Sidney > Victoria > Qualcom Beach > Tofino > Sidney > Anacortes > Winthrop > Highway 20 across to Tiger > Creston > Cranbrook > Crowsnest > Calgary. Never once during that entire trip did I feel I was short on power.

Note - I'm not a light - over 200 lbs.

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I like everything I see and read about the 2012 DL650, but looking for opinions on power. I had a DL1000 that I sold a few years back, and loved it once I had it set up right.

Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage? I never used all the power of the 1000, but it sure was nice to drop a gear and move past anything that was in the way. Not sure if I'll be happy with the power of the 650.

I know "power" is pretty subjective and depends on the weight you are packing. I'm 155 lb, carry about 50 lb of luggage, and don't ride 2-up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
Does your car pass adequately?

Because the DL650 does 0-60 in about 4 seconds and does the quarter mile in a little over 12 seconds with a trap speed of over 100mph. Something that very, very few cars can do.

What you can't do is ride it like a Harley. You've got to get the rpms up in the 7-9,000 range for maximum boost. So you'd be downshifting a gear or two.
 

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See how often in normal overtaking you get to full throttle, and for how long on similar inclines / altitudes. If you're always on the stop for hours at an end, the bike would seem to me to be underpowered for your level of ability / needs.

In my experience. on UK roads, I now I can thrash a 125 at full throttle for quite a while on our "A" roads, hardly ever hit it on my L2 even two up, though it's not been tested at a mile high so far, that's in a months time when wee'll be on the Grossglockner.
 

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Yes! As mentioned above the 650 has more acceleration than most cars. It really does have good midrange for a 650 and even with the 16 tooth countershaft sprocket I am running, twisting the throttle in 6th gear moves the speedometer up nicely.

What it won't do that the 1000 did was give you the burst of speed the 1000 can give with one downshift. You need to downshift 2 or 3 gears in the situation you describe.
 

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The 0-60 times are where the Wee shines. 60-90, not so much. Still, I find going down to 4th to begin with when passing puts the engine in a better spot in the power band and moves me significantly faster than any car I've ever owned. 4th is perfect for the 60-90 spread.
 

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Well, having owned 2 DL 1000's (06-08) and now 2 650's (09-12adv). I can say YES the 2012 650 is great and has plenty of oomph. The 1000 has obviously good power all around. The 650 is geared better with closer ratios. Wich keeps in it's power band most of the time. I also think you need to ask yourself the question, do I need to pass? If your already doing 70, do I really need to pass this guy and end up doing 90 wich is way above the posted limit? Roll on power from 50-55 is great. Even better dropping a gear or 2.
 

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Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage?
I got tagged by aircraft on the Maine Turnpike for passing a line of about ten trucks on my '07.
 

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These sort of topics make me laugh. 1. Its a 650 Twin. 2. You have all the specs of the engine, hp rpm torque mpg etc. 3 The price reflects the motorcycle. 4 If you want to go 2 up with tons of luggage do vast mileage on mountainous roads take a dvd and a tv with you do not buy this bike! get your money out and spend a lot more on a bigger bike. But if you are happy to compromise like myself and cant afford a Mc Gegor and Borman you will have to make do with the DL.
 

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I just did a short ( 3400 miles ) trip to southwest Colorado. Interstate, 4 lanes, 2 lanes. The mule ( the Wee ) was loaded pretty good and I weigh about 225. Passed everything I wanted to pass anywhere from 60-80 mph. Never felt the need to drop a gear. Not crotch-rocket acceleration but plenty to get it done. My .02.
 

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perfectly valid question - yes it can pass trucks, but how quickly do u want to pass and at what starting speed and how long is the truck. Also depends on what you were used to to as well....

I used to ride 1000cc sports bike - passing any car or truck at Hwy speed (say 100km/hr or 63mph) is literally a matter of seeing a gap and just rolled the throttle with little planning involved. by the time i pass the truck, i am already doing 160-180km/hr if not faster.

One up with lugguge on the 650 at that sort of starting speed, requies a little more planning - but not too much of an issue in any case - it's still as fast as say a stock WRX.

2 up with lugguage is more like driving solo on a large capacity family car. Still quick - but planning is really necessary.

At the end of the day higher capacity engine bike will be better at it than the 650cc - but how often do u need to pass a truck in a hurry- weight up with your intended use of the bike and make a logical decision. asking your mates who is on a higher capcity bike will just turn into a pissing contest.
 

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shifting at 10000 rpms makes it move. i had many bikes in the last 20 years and this is the smallest displacament motorcycle i've owned for street use and i can say that i dont need more power. it's a canadian adv ( more accessories) and i ride solo,
 

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I like everything I see and read about the 2012 DL650, but looking for opinions on power. I had a DL1000 that I sold a few years back, and loved it once I had it set up right.

Can the new DL650 quickly pass a truck, uphill, high altitude (6000 ft), loaded with luggage? I never used all the power of the 1000, but it sure was nice to drop a gear and move past anything that was in the way. Not sure if I'll be happy with the power of the 650.

I know "power" is pretty subjective and depends on the weight you are packing. I'm 155 lb, carry about 50 lb of luggage, and don't ride 2-up.

Any thoughts appreciated.
Once you've had the power of the DL1000 it's going to be tough owning the 650.
 

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Once you've had the power of the DL1000 it's going to be tough owning the 650.
My 1000 is nearing the end of its serviceable life, and you're not helping me downsize. I gotta say, I love the grunt of the 1K. I'm looking at replacements and for what I use a bike, it's down to the two DLs. I'm on the lookout for a project 650 to toy around with, just to see what it's like, but I'm not prepared to buy a new one.
 

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Once you've had the light weight and smoothness of the DL650 it's going to be tough owning the 1000.
FFY

The DL1000 is one of the slowest liter bikes made. And of course we have a former owner who states riding one over 100mph is a death wish.:fineprint:

On the flip side, the BMW R1200GS is even heavier and barely faster.

If the OP ever comes back, he's going to have to ride them and decide for himself - specsheet racing is not very satisfying.
 

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i have been riding a triumph sprint for the last little while and now have the wee12 and i don't miss the power, I find the 650 have all the usable power the triumph has
 
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