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My local dealer has a 2011 650 with 1,500 miles. Little rust on the chain, but otherwise looks like basically new old stock. Also has two 2014 1000 adventures that are truly new old stock. I'm coming off a 2007 ninja 250 I bought new. My riding was 100% slab, but now is 80% commuting on the slab and 20% gravel roads to the farm. Mainly I need something better on the gravel roads so I'm looking Strom.

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From folks that have had both, is it worth it to get a new gen 2 650?

And from those of you that have transitioned from smaller bikes is it too much to go all the way to a 1000 without time in between on a 650?
 

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Two questions....

From folks that have had both, is it worth it to get a new gen 2 650?

No. I am currently riding my 2nd gen 1 650. My regular riding pal has a 2nd gen 650. His is noticeably different in ride and power; not noticeably better but different. The only 2 areas I would give it a superior rating is looks and wind management/turbulence level.

And from those of you that have transitioned from smaller bikes is it too much to go all the way to a 1000 without time in between on a 650?

No. I think the 650 is a much better balanced bike and more fun to ride aggressively on both highway and loose surfaces. I think you can do the 1000 but I also do not think you will enjoy it as much as the 650.
I'm trying to talk myself into a 2nd gen 650. I've come close a couple of times and may be successful in doing this on a used ADV soon. If i am honest with myself, the looks and the wind management are the main appeal. Looks are not a justifiable reason and the madstadt and givi aerflo pretty much manage to keep the turbulence muted enough to maintain sanity while riding my gen1.

As I said, I've talked myself out of this twice already. There is no logical argument that makes this a rational purchase. Sometimes we just want something enough that yielding to the desire is the only thing that will quiet the voices arguing in your head.

Try to talk yourself out of the one you want. Buy it if you can't.
 

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I have not rode an older Gen V-Strom, but in performing some research for suspension upgrades on my 2015 V-Strom, I have came across several references to improved stock suspension with the newer Gen DL650. Maybe something for you to look into?
 

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I have a 2009 650 and a 2014 1000 and if I did not take my bride with me (& all her shit) I would stick with the 650.

I do love the V2 but there is a big soft spot in my heart for the Wee.

I'm happy paying for fuel but I hate stopping for fuel, I get at least a extra 100ks from the Wee's tank.

You being a relatively new ridder ABS could be a good investment ?
 

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Everything about the 2nd gen 650 is better than the first IMHO.......
 

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There are tons of 04-11 strom out there for really good prices. I say if you are considering new, go for the '14, but post up the asking price first. Depending on what current deal Suzuki is offering the dealer the old stock bikes may or may not be a good deal.
 

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Everything about the 2nd gen 650 is better than the first
Yes. It'll take a lot of money in aftermarket stuff for an old 650 to equal the 2nd gen 650.

And, the '14+ 1000 is better than any 650 in every way except the price. The 2014 left-overs are priced great. What 1000 parts were carried over from the first generation 1000? Foot pegs & hand grips, chain? If those, not much more. Better frame geometry, better suspension, better engine (fueling, clutch, much more), better brakes, better OE tires....
 
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So the ask on the 2011 650 is $6k. The 2014 1000 adventures were "make an offer". I've always paid cash for bikes in the past, but this purchase would be financed. New bikes finance at 0% right now, but the used one would not. So the total payments could be less or equal on a new bike.

After the feedback so far, I don't see the benefit of a 1000. I'm always solo, so other than the occasional blast (up to the legal speed limit of course), I don't see a lot of additional capability.
 

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When I was shopping the 650 was a little lower and easier to swing a leg over. I could flat foot both but getting on the 650 was easier So that is the way I decided back in 2007. I stayed with the 650 when I bought new in 2013. Both generations are great, but the second gen is even beter in my option. The one item on the 2nd gen is if you install handle bar risers the brake cable is short and needs to be extended or rerouted.
 

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So the ask on the 2011 650 is $6k. The 2014 1000 adventures were "make an offer". I've always paid cash for bikes in the past, but this purchase would be financed. New bikes finance at 0% right now, but the used one would not. So the total payments could be less or equal on a new bike.

After the feedback so far, I don't see the benefit of a 1000. I'm always solo, so other than the occasional blast (up to the legal speed limit of course), I don't see a lot of additional capability.
Hard choice if you haven't had a chance to use both. The zero% financing is nothing to ignore. Plus, as PT points out, the V2 1000 has much better suspension, brakes, instrumentation and traction control. It will have higher resale than the 650. The weight is just about the same as 650. I have a lot of time on my 1000 and regularly switch bikes with a riding buddy and his 2011 650. The 1000 is better all the way around. Still, I don't hate ridding his 650 or my own SV650.
Your comments lead me to think you are level headed so having the extra power will not convert you into a crazy person. Go big.
 
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So the ask on the 2011 650 is $6k. The 2014 1000 adventures were "make an offer". I've always paid cash for bikes in the past, but this purchase would be financed. New bikes finance at 0% right now, but the used one would not. So the total payments could be less or equal on a new bike.

After the feedback so far, I don't see the benefit of a 1000. I'm always solo, so other than the occasional blast (up to the legal speed limit of course), I don't see a lot of additional capability.
JMHO here, but I would not pay $6K for an '11. Also, there is no such thing as zero financing.....for example, tell the dealer you want to pay cash and his price will be anywhere from $500-1500 cheaper. I understand if you have to finance, just understand how it all works.

Before I found my used '15XT I was seriously considering a new one & Romney Cycle had the best price in the mid $7's. In stock now is a 2016 naked 2015 for $7200:
2015 Suzuki V-Strom 650 ABS Motorcycles Romney West Virginia 00694

Like I said before, Suzuki tends to discount older bikes for a certain time period, then yank the sale. One dealer told me that one month earlier the 15 XT Adventure was $1500 cheaper than it was the day I looked at it.
 

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I like the lighter weight of the 650, it is a very balanced well rounded bike, but I have to admit I love the way the 1000 has gobs of torque down low. It's fun to roll on the throttle and feel that pull.


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I have the old stuff...04-05... and it seems to have fewer reported problems. Yeah a lousy headlight but mine hasn't failed in 85K miles and Eastern Beaver is always the answer.
I'd go for less expensive and enjoy the miles the difference would buy.
 

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These bikes last so long, that unless you really need that "new bike smell" I can't see a good reason to buy new. The new gen 650 probably is better in some areas like handling, but I haven't felt limited in that regard on my 2011 650. On the other hand, there have been plenty of times on CA freeways where I wished I had a 1000...
 

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So the ask on the 2011 650 is $6k. The 2014 1000 adventures were "make an offer". I've always paid cash for bikes in the past, but this purchase would be financed. New bikes finance at 0% right now, but the used one would not. So the total payments could be less or equal on a new bike.

After the feedback so far, I don't see the benefit of a 1000. I'm always solo, so other than the occasional blast (up to the legal speed limit of course), I don't see a lot of additional capability.

The Gen 2 1000 has much better suspension and brakes then the Gen 2 650.

The 650 hasn't changed much since introduced in 2004. Except for ABS and cosmetics it's basically the same bike.

I would go for a new old stock Gen 2 1000 myself.
 
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New development.... Found a new in the box 2013 that is eligible for 72 month 0% that's going on now. At $5,300 plus title tag and yadda yadda yadda, it'll come out less than the 2011. I may have my new bike.

Anyone have reservations about a bike sitting for 3 years?
 

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New development.... Found a new in the box 2013 that is eligible for 72 month 0% that's going on now. At $5,300 plus title tag and yadda yadda yadda, it'll come out less than the 2011. I may have my new bike.

Anyone have reservations about a bike sitting for 3 years?
That sound like a great deal. I would have no reservations about it, but get them to change the brake fluid. Even though brake fluid absorbs less water than in the olden days, it still does and that fluid has been in there for 3 years. And you might ask them about a new battery at dealer cost.
I bet you'll love it _ and by the time you use it up you can find a deal on a left over 2021 DL1000 ....
 

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The Gen 2 1000 has much better suspension and brakes then the Gen 2 650.

The 650 hasn't changed much since introduced in 2004. Except for ABS and cosmetics it's basically the same bike.

I would go for a new old stock Gen 2 1000 myself.
Its a different engine too, and you can get spokes. :wink2:
 

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Sounds like a good deal Kawa...post up the pic's when you pick it up.
 
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