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Hi there, I'm from BC Canada so I could use some local knowledge to plan a route to by-pass the Ventura to San Diego south traffic congestion etc. for our ride to Tecate.

Me and 3 buds are riding ADV bikes from BC south through MX for 6 weeks this April and I'd like to know the best way to get to the Tecate border xing once we hit Ventura area on the 101. We have two days to get to Tecate so we could sneak inland if that would make for better riding and less traffic. From what I see on my map that area south of Ventura is one busy looking area.

Thanks in advance for your routing advice!
 

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The run down from Ventura to San Diego can take 3 hours or more depending on time of day, accidents, etc. and can be darn right unpleasant sometimes. Going east to avoid traffic will take twice that or more but the scenery will be much nicer and traffic almost non-existent. I would head over to the 2 through Angeles National Forest, then the 138 east, a short run on the 10, then south through Banning to the 243 through Idyllwild, Warner springs, Julian, Campo then Tecate. A much longer route distance wise but if you have the time for this these are some of the best motorcycle roads in these parts.
 

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Listen to Ceke! From Ventura, the 118 to the 210 and get off the 210 before Pasadena. The bastion of f'd up traffic.
April should be good on Hwy2. It can get closed due to snow but a check of the Cal Trans site will let you know. 1 800 427 7623. Then enter the number of the highway and the disembodied voice will give you the info.
The route ceke recommends is a good'n. Slight correction... the 138 hits the 15 and then South to the 210 to the 10.
Get pie in Julian.
 

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I just rode from oakland to escondido and then back. I went through riverside (15 south) and then on the way home I went through los angeles area on the 405. Riverside was awful. on the 15 from the 10 to Lake Elsinore was all backed up. The bypass was just as bad. the 405 was backed up all through los angeles, as usual. unless you are going to lane split it is not a fun experience, and I agree if you have the time avoid all. I would even avoid the 10.
 

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I forgot to say, if you are coming through the bay area, once you get to san jose you may consider the 25 south to san lucas area, then back on the 101 and then near nipoma there is a road that will take you to the 33. The 33 goes through the national forest there and the mountains and ends up in ventura just outside of ojai. It is very nice.
 

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Jfettner, The Ceke route is exactly what would avoid the metropolitan parts of the trip that made your journey so bad.
The locals experience the traffic everyday. Only an warped imagination would make the freeway system seem like a mo bettah alternative to the scenic route.
Just about every metropolitan area of Calif has crap for traffic at some time of the day.
 

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Timing is everything. The freeways around the Bay Area and LA are both bad, but the ones near San Francisco are worse. If you time it to avoid rush hour you can get through without too much problem. Unfortunately, if you do the trip in one day, the two cities are just far enough apart that missing rush hour in one means hitting it in the other. If you do go through LA, just bite the bullet and take 405. It's the best of a bad deal. Once through LA, Ortega Highway across the mountains to Lane Elsinore is a nice ride and puts you on I-15 to San Diego.
 

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next trip to san diego I will have to try going around the riverside area as suggested. thank you. Did not do it last time, I needed to make the trip in one day and spent most the day avoiding the 101 and the 5.
 

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Listen to Ceke! From Ventura, the 118 to the 210 and get off the 210 before Pasadena. The bastion of f'd up traffic.
April should be good on Hwy2. It can get closed due to snow but a check of the Cal Trans site will let you know. 1 800 427 7623. Then enter the number of the highway and the disembodied voice will give you the info.
The route ceke recommends is a good'n. Slight correction... the 138 hits the 15 and then South to the 210 to the 10.
Get pie in Julian.
Better yet would be to take Big Tujunga to the lower part of the crest, won't take you out of the way as far. If you're gonna do East County SD, you absolutely have to hit up Montezuma Hwy from Borrego Springs, one of the best roads in Socal IMO.
 
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