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I'm in the planning stages of a trip out west this summer, and I'm in the market for a tire. I'll be riding two up, and sadly parts of the trip are going to be on the interstate. Most of the trip will be on pavement, but there are a couple spots (Phantom Canyon Rd, Moki Dugway, Valley of the Gods Road) where I'll be seeing a little bit of dirt/gravel. I've considered both the Heidenau K60 and the Mitas E07, but I really don't need a 50/50 tire when 90 percent of the ride is going to be on pavement. I've seen that Bridgestone has released a new tire, the A41 Adventure, that looks like it might be a candidate for the trip (it'll be 4000-5000 miles, depending on which way I ride home, and only about the first 2000 will be two up). Trouble is, I haven't really found any reviews of the performance of this tire other that the publicity information released by Bridgestone, so I wanted to see if anyone here had any experience with it yet.
 

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Normally I'd just stay with the Shinkos; I really like them. I just know from experience that they might not last the entire trip
 

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I'll give you a perspective answer. 40 years ago I had a 20 year old BSA rocket. I rode it on street and desert terrain. I didn't know anything about adventure tires as they had not been invented yet. The adventure was in the rider, not the tire. So I made do with bias ply street tires and was just happy to have the riding experience. So I'd say gearing up your bike for the 5% of the time off road doesn't make sense; choose a good street tire that has great rain traction; rain is the challenge, not a dry dirt road. I wish you the happiest of memories on your trip.
 

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40 years ago bikes didn't commonly have fuel injection and had archaic suspensions. You made do with the experience because that's the only choice you had; you couldn't make a choice for a better suspension, tires, or fueling system because you didn't have a choice. Now we have a lot of choices, including choices in tires suited for all kinds of riding conditions. If there's a tire available that can make that "5%" of the ride safer and more enjoyable (especially when I have someone riding with me) and still perform adequately on the road, then I'll take advantage of the choices available to me. I'll also take advantage of the vast knowledge and experiences of the guys who inhabit this forum to help make the choice. I've been riding since '83, and while I may occasionally wax nostalgic about the good old days of bias ply tires and rebuilding carbs in parking lots, I'll take modern tech any day. There are plenty of ADV tire choices out there that work good on pavement, have good wet road handling, and do well in gravel and dirt; why not avail yourself of those choices? The A41 is a new tire in that niche that I don't have any experience with; hence, my starting this thread.
 

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Weren't the Tourances replaced by the NEXT, or something along those lines?
 

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The A41 looks like a good tire, though a bit expensive. I'm curious to see how they perform. Always been happy with Bridgestone on other bikes in the past. Currently have a set of Metzler Tourance Next waiting to install, and I think after that I'll try the A41.
 

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I can't speak for the A41's but always leery of manufacturer's claims or Revzilla for that matter. I took a lengthy camping trip out west in 2016 from Indiana that totaled around 8,000 miles and had a new set of A40's on a DL1000. The rear was done at a little over 6,000 so had to find a dealer to replace that in North Dakota. Most of the trip was two lane highways and backroads, maybe a third interstates and a small amount of gravel/dirt roads riding one up but with a fair load, camp gear etc. The friend who made the trip with me on a similar loaded bike, a Super Tenere, was running Mitas E-07's that gave double the wear life I had with the A40's and had no issues. I've since switched to Mitas and have on complaints other than they are a bear to install if you do it yourself.
 

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Being able to install them myself is actually kind of important for me. The nearest shop to me is almost an hour away, and last time I took them a tire, I had to drop it off and come back another day to get it. That's a lot of wasted time and driving (plus the time of whoever has to follow me down and give me a ride home), so I started putting the tires on myself. If the Mitas are as hard to mount by hand as I've read on line, then I'll probably opt for something simpler, out of sheer laziness.
 

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I'm glad that you started this thread. Got me thinking again about the tires that I will put on for this coming summers trip. I'm also going to take another trip out west. Probably 5-8K I've had the tournace's and I liked them, had the shinko 705's, in fact they are still on. I'm on my third rear to the front's 1st. I'd put them on again, but am done listening to that damn thing howl! (front)
I'm going with the Mitas E-07 E07's.
That new bridgstone A41 does sound interesting though. I did watch the company's explanation of how they are a bit better than the A40's but also said that distance should be about the same.
 

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Being able to install them myself is actually kind of important for me. The nearest shop to me is almost an hour away, and last time I took them a tire, I had to drop it off and come back another day to get it. That's a lot of wasted time and driving (plus the time of whoever has to follow me down and give me a ride home), so I started putting the tires on myself. If the Mitas are as hard to mount by hand as I've read on line, then I'll probably opt for something simpler, out of sheer laziness.
The "Dakar" version is the tough one to mount, not heard too many complaints about mounting the standard E07....but yes they have a thick and tough sidewall. IMHO that is the tire you should have on for this trip, nothing will give you better mileage and you will also have one of the best off pavement tires as well.....WIN WIN.
 
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The "Dakar" version is the tough one to mount, not heard too many complaints about mounting the standard E07....but yes they have a thick and tough sidewall. IMHO that is the tire you should have on for this trip, nothing will give you better mileage and you will also have one of the best off pavement tires as well.....WIN WIN.
What about the front tire? I've been reading more than a few accounts of dissatisfaction with the E07 front tires.
 

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RC, how much worse can it be than the HOWLING 705 front?

just wondering?
 

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RC, how much worse can it be than the HOWLING 705 front?

just wondering?
I'll be honest, eagleeye, that never bothered me; in fact, I never took any particular notice that they howled at all. Either I'm not sensitive to it, or else I don't notice it because I always have earplugs in. Even now, with a badly cupped front 705 with 7800 miles on it, I still don't notice it (though I can feel how badly cupped the tire is when I roll the bike across the garage). If I could be sure that the Shinko would last for 6000-6500 miles, I'd just stay with them.
 

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Well, it could be just me, but being hard of hearing, that thing is driving me nuts, so it's gotta go. The front with over 13K is very cupped also. AND it's not wore out. Amazing!
The Mitas E-07's pair that I have saved on ebay is $259, so I'm going with them. I'm hoping to finish out the 705's this spring and before I take off, then I'll switch them out.
 

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Same thing with my front; it's cupped, but there's a ton of tread still left on it. I wish the rears lasted as long.
 

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I put a set of a41 Battlax on early last year. 14,000 km (8700 miles) on them now and still ok for a couple of upcoming trips. Last summers rides included a two up trip around the great lakes and a two up out to gaspe and back. Lots of tread still and no cupping. The rear tire is a bit squared. Have not ridden in dirt and they were fine in normal gravel. Traction on highway and wet roads is fine. My favourite tires were the Michelin Anakee 3, mainly due to the even wear. Unfortunately they not quickly available when I needed them. Battleax are original equipment on the new vstroms.
 
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