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I am planning to swap out the stock handlebar for a ProTaper SE ATV high bend ----wondering if anyone can tell me whether the OEM bar ends will still work with the ProTaper SE bar? and if not, what alternatives are available? Thanks.
 

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They won't cause the internal diameter of the new bar is too small. I had to use some fuel line and hardware to make it work. More here (post is not mine).
 

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I use those bars and I didn't put the weights back on when I installed them. I think the aluminum bars must do a better job soaking up vibrations than the stock bars. I get some tingling at higher speeds/rpm, but for me they feel fine without weights at any speed below 80mph.
 

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Thanks for those ideas. I want to keep the bar ends, as I also have the Suzuki OEM handguards which attach to the bar ends (and as I recall involved some modification of the bar end hardware when first installed). I guess I will try some 1/4 inch ID air hose and see if that works. Disappointed as I thought someone had posted previously that the ProTaper SE would work with the Suzuki OEM hand guards without further modification.

Anyone else out there who has a ProTaper SE and also the Suzuki OEM hand guards installed?
 

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They won't cause the internal diameter of the new bar is too small. I had to use some fuel line and hardware to make it work. More here (post is not mine).
I read that post and pictures, which is from 2008----my bike is a 2012 and I think the OEM hardware for the bar ends might have changed, especially as I have the OEM handguards installed. Is yours a 2012 or newer and still needed mods to fit a Protaper SE (which is uniformly 7/8, not the fat one)??
 

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I did the same install and did the rubber fuel line and a few mins. at a grinder wheel.... not a large issue. Everything good in less than 30 mins for me.:thumbup:

Thanks for those ideas. I want to keep the bar ends, as I also have the Suzuki OEM handguards which attach to the bar ends (and as I recall involved some modification of the bar end hardware when first installed). I guess I will try some 1/4 inch ID air hose and see if that works. Disappointed as I thought someone had posted previously that the ProTaper SE would work with the Suzuki OEM hand guards without further modification.

Anyone else out there who has a ProTaper SE and also the Suzuki OEM hand guards installed?
 

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I used most of the bar end hardware for the hand guards, but i left the weights off. Where the weights would be, i simply placed a large nylon washer to keep the hand guards in place. Oh yes, i modified the hardware too, as that is necessary.
 

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Here's an update on what may work for me-- my ProTaper SE arrived today and I got a chance to measure it and try some things.

I have the OEM handguards and their hardware---which involves a shorter M6 bolt than the one which came stock on the bike. There is only about an inch of length left at the end of the bolt. However, the adjusting/tightening nut mechanism on that hardware is definitely too thick (0.67 in) to fit inside the Protaper bar (0.54 iN), as was expected.

I plan on replacing that OEM adjusting nut mechanism, using a short section (half inch or so) of 1/4 inch ID fuel hose that I found lying around (originally sourced at Pep Boys parts counter for a car). The OD of this fuel hose is .50 inch, so it just fits inside the Protaper bar and the idea is that when compressed as the screw is tightened, the rubber fuel hose will bind up against the inside of the bar and hold the bar end weight in place.

I created a new adjusting nut mechanism as follows: The short piece of fuel hose will be sandwiched between two 6mm steel washers. Before adding the 6mm nut at the innermost end, I am also adding a 1/4" ID rubber/neoprene washer between the nut and the steel washer----an idea I got in this thread from another post, so that the nut adjusts properly when the bolt is tightened. so, the sequence from outside in is: M6 steel washer, fuel hose, M6 steel washer, 1/4" rubber washer, and at the very end M6 nut. The steel washers are not strictly needed but my thought is that they will help compress the section of fuel hose, hopefully without binding up the adjusting nut and making it all impossible to remove.

The only new parts required for this mod are short piece of fuel hose, one M6 nut, two M6 steel washers, and one 1/4"ID rubber washer. It seems to secure the bar end weight but I have not yet installed and tested on the bike.
 

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Update now that I have installed this home-made bar end on the ProTaper SE bars----it does work and seems to be holding. However, the 1/4" fuel hose leaves a bit of room until compressed and I'm considering using a 5/16 ID hose instead (which runs about 9/16 or .56 OD). This may be too tight and if so I will shave a layer off so that it will snug into the bar. I'm also thinking about going back to the OEM bolts, which are longer, and adding a steel spacer, but not sure that would improve it any.
 

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Kind of re-inventing the wheel. You can buy the inserts (here) that have a wedge so you can remove them in one piece.

 

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Kind of re-inventing the wheel. You can buy the inserts (here) that have a wedge so you can remove them in one piece.

those look nice--- but I am wondering if the rubber bumper is thin enough to fit instead the ProTaper SE bars (as they have a smaller ID than the stock bars, although both are 7/8 OD bars).
 

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those look nice--- but I am wondering if the rubber bumper is thin enough to fit instead the ProTaper SE bars (as they have a smaller ID than the stock bars, although both are 7/8 OD bars).

Did you follow the link? Says they work with aluminum bars.
 

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Did you follow the link? Says they work with aluminum bars.
I actually ordered a set of the Tusk clamps and now know they do not work for my purpose. The diameter on the rubber bumper is .70 inch, too fat to fit inside the ProTaper bar. If the rubber piece is removed, it might work as a bar end, but will not work to secure the OEM bar end weights on the vstrom, especially the ones used with OEM hand guards. The bolt on the Tusk is less than 3 in long, as compared to OEM of 4.3 in, and the Tusk bolt is M8, not the M6 bolt that the vstrom bar ends are designed for. So the Tusk clamp is not the answer to how to secure OEM bar ends inside of a ProTaper bar.
 

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I went through this rig-a-ra-rol on my Gen 1 650 and was not reliable during touring across country. On my Gen 2, I use the progrip 714's and got the acerbis hand guards which are way nicer and very robust connection - no bar ends needed.
 

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Just a comment, and I realize it's "Too late", if you also fit barkbusters you don't need the bar ends.

All in all that's probably the better fix.

Pete
 

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Edit, I see you came to the same results I did. Your problem, if you are having one, is that the fuel line is too short. 1/2" is not enough to get a solid purchase on the inner part of the bar. 2" long at least.

Thanks for those ideas. I want to keep the bar ends, as I also have the Suzuki OEM handguards which attach to the bar ends (and as I recall involved some modification of the bar end hardware when first installed). I guess I will try some 1/4 inch ID air hose and see if that works. Disappointed as I thought someone had posted previously that the ProTaper SE would work with the Suzuki OEM hand guards without further modification.

Anyone else out there who has a ProTaper SE and also the Suzuki OEM hand guards installed?
Yes, I do. They work w/out modification to the bar and handguards but you need to "build your own" bar end mounts because, as noted, the inner diameter of the SE bar is smaller then the ID of the OEM steel bar. Simple to do with fuel line:

 

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Edit, I see you came to the same results I did. Your problem, if you are having one, is that the fuel line is too short. 1/2" is not enough to get a solid purchase on the inner part of the bar. 2" long at least.



Yes, I do. They work w/out modification to the bar and handguards but you need to "build your own" bar end mounts because, as noted, the inner diameter of the SE bar is smaller then the ID of the OEM steel bar. Simple to do with fuel line:

I can confirm that this process does work. The concept made sense when I did my own research about keeping the end weights when using the ProTaper bars.
 

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Edit, I see you came to the same results I did. Your problem, if you are having one, is that the fuel line is too short. 1/2" is not enough to get a solid purchase on the inner part of the bar. 2" long at least.



Yes, I do. They work w/out modification to the bar and handguards but you need to "build your own" bar end mounts because, as noted, the inner diameter of the SE bar is smaller then the ID of the OEM steel bar. Simple to do with fuel line:

Thanks, that is encouraging. Which "longer" bolt did you use? I have the one that came with the stock bike, and another which came with the OEM hand guard kit. I think I am now using the kit bolt, but the one that came stock with the bike might actually be longer? Have to check but curious if you recall.
 

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Thanks, that is encouraging. Which "longer" bolt did you use? I have the one that came with the stock bike, and another which came with the OEM hand guard kit. I think I am now using the kit bolt, but the one that came stock with the bike might actually be longer? Have to check but curious if you recall.
I used the longer bolt that came with the handguard kit, although I realized after I posted that I actually used a handguard kit from a pre-2012 bike (which will also work on a 2012+ bike), but there are some differences - one of those being a longer handguard bolt.
 
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