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Hello,
The May edition of Australian Road Rider magazine gives a good review of the new DL650A on page 82.
The main Strom pic has the quote "Practical with common sense.....rare these days"
I think that sums up the DL650A very well :)
 

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Hello,
The May edition of Australian Road Rider magazine gives a good review of the new DL650A on page 82.
The main Strom pic has the quote "Practical with common sense.....rare these days"
I think that sums up the DL650A very well :)
I just got my copy in the PO Box today, I must go rip open the packaging and have a read of it. :fineprint:
 

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Let me guess. A half page write up consisting mainly of a regurgitation of the specs and details from Suzukis advertising and two or three sentences summarising the bike in a not to positive (don't want to upset the other advertsiers) and not to negative (don't want to upset Suzuki) way.

BTW the first R in ARR stands for ROAD. :D
 

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Let me guess. A half page write up consisting mainly of a regurgitation of the specs and details from Suzukis advertising and two or three sentences summarising the bike in a not to positive (don't want to upset the other advertsiers) and not to negative (don't want to upset Suzuki) way.

BTW the first R in ARR stands for ROAD. :D
Close, a full page pic, about one and half write up, mostly praise, (& some regurgitated specs) also lots of smaller pics....havnt seen a review in ADVmoto mag yet or Australasian Dirt bike or AustralianMotorcycleNews or TwoWheels, etc (unless anyone does know of one yet???? please post)
Im guessing ARR are targeting riders who's Stroms will spend 70-80% on the road & not offroad :)
 

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Close, a full page pic, about one and half write up, mostly praise, (& some regurgitated specs) also lots of smaller pics....havnt seen a review in ADVmoto mag yet or Australasian Dirt bike or AustralianMotorcycleNews or TwoWheels, etc (unless anyone does know of one yet???? please post)
Im guessing ARR are targeting riders who's Stroms will spend 70-80% on the road & not offroad :)
There is an article on the new Wee in a car magazine at my mechanics that I saw today, but I didn't have time to stay and read it [I might go back tomorrow just to check it out].

There was a full page pic and almost a full page write up, the brief skim showed some specs and the suggestion that the Wee is the best value for money bike around today [so a re-write of the previous model release, more or less- so K1W1 is probably close to the mark on how these things are written up in magazines].
 

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The vstrom 650 is one of the greatest all round motorcycles ever produced since the days of the pe 250.Nothing comes close for value for money,performance,features,quality of build,finish,pleasure to own,shall i go on.If any other can make this claim bring it on,v stroms for ever tc.
 

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Magazine Reviews

With the amount of information on the net about various motorcycles more and more people are searching forums like this one for feedback about products and bikes. How many times have we seen new members on this forum admit to lurking, I'd call it researching, before purchasing a Wee Strom or Vee? Magazines seem to have a very limited future, most now offer two for one deals or free DVDs in the packaging.
As for objective testing that disappeared when the likes of Kel Wearne and Geoff Hall stopped riding interstate to test a bike's comfort and reliability. Some of the trip reports on this forum do a better job than many of the journalists who happen to ride a bike.
I do subscribe to MC Trader, mainly to see what's for sale and the techincal stuff.
 

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Well you can hardly call posts on this forum objective :).

I will admit though when I was looking at the DL I did hit multiple forums and look for owners complaining about broken bits or other problems, particularly problems with dealer support. Not that reliable either, but it does give you some idea of which are the high-grief bikes with poor support at least.

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Objectivity on this forum.

Well you can hardly call posts on this forum objective :).

True but if you look further into things like problems people are having and so on then you get a better idea of what to expect as a long term owner. Road tests in magazines are usually on new bikes that are barely run in, if there is a problem during the test the tester usually makes an apology on behalf of the manufacturer of distributor, you know it's put down as one off, or pre-production glitch or the best one of all "character":green_lol:

Some of the distances covered by owners on this forum are good guides to reliability, all the posts about suspension, seat comfort and buffetting point to the fact that the bike isn't perfect for some riders straight out of the crate.

While not always objective they are far more detailed than magazine articles.
I can remember when Cycle World would pull a bike apart and examine its entrails as part of a test.:jawdrop:
 

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Partly agree with you JD, I ran into a group of the magazines test riders the other week, the group had a half dozen bikes (including the new Strom) they were all swapping the bikes on the ride to compare the differences, so their total time in the saddle for each bike would have been a few hours at best. True the mag reviews are now just a brief overview of the bike and specs, then its upto a buyer to do their own research. In-depth, long distance magazine reviews seem a thing of the past, I think its still interesting to get a quick look at whats in the shops from the mag articles, although I wouldn't buy solely on a mag review.
 

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Theres a write up of the new wee in the latest Men's Fitness magazine. Talks it up very well, but the bike in the photo is a dl1000. Maybe if I swap and buy a wee I will also become fitter.
 

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reviews on ARR is like porn for bikers - great to read for daydreaming but dont take it as gospel
 

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I stopped believing 'ride tests' in mags about 10 years ago.

The turning point was 2 tests one on the Cagiva Raptor 1000 and one on the SV1000. I owned both of these bikes and the power, handling and general feel is very similar.
Of course the Cagiva was an Italian thoroughbred and the SV was boring.

The funny (predictable) thing is that I now very rarely buy bike mags. I guess this happens when you write bullshit and call it journalism :)
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Although I did read a few magazine articles on the V-Strom before I decided that was the bike I wanted, I came to sites like Stromtrooper to hear from owners.
Only an owner can give you the best idea of what a bike is like for reliablity, costs etc.

Even if I do only go onto dirt about 1% (or less) I love my bike and love getting out on the road!
 

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Susukigirl Does that mean your an official 1%er?? (jokes) .... Guessing a lot of Stroms are bought as a commuter or tourer & never see dirt unless its roadworks. It doesn't matter where you ride as long as your riding & enjoying it.
BB Thanks for the mcnews link & there are even articles in car & fitness magazines ???? Well whatever gets more riders on Stroms is OK. I still like the description ARR used "Practical with common sense...rare these days" The Strom is also a partially naked bike so it could be classed in the bike porn section too! thankfully I can drool over naked bikes in magazines while in public without being arrested (i think)
 

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Quote from Mens fitness re the DL650A, "it's like motorbiking for dummies, but in a smart way." What does that say about me buying the vee?
 

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Susukigirl Does that mean your an official 1%er?? (jokes) .... Guessing a lot of Stroms are bought as a commuter or tourer & never see dirt unless its roadworks. It doesn't matter where you ride as long as your riding & enjoying it.
BB Thanks for the mcnews link & there are even articles in car & fitness magazines ???? Well whatever gets more riders on Stroms is OK. I still like the description ARR used "Practical with common sense...rare these days" The Strom is also a partially naked bike so it could be classed in the bike porn section too! thankfully I can drool over naked bikes in magazines while in public without being arrested (i think)
Very funny :green_lol:
I recently got lost while riding around the Clunes/Evansford/Beaufort area (sorry to the guys from interstate who have no idea where I am) and came to a fork in the road, my choices were: turn around and go back the way I came or pick one of the dirt roads in front of me.
I bet most of you think I went back, no, I went on the dirt :hurray:
 

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Very funny :green_lol:
I recently got lost while riding around the Clunes/Evansford/Beaufort area (sorry to the guys from interstate who have no idea where I am) and came to a fork in the road, my choices were: turn around and go back the way I came or pick one of the dirt roads in front of me.
I bet most of you think I went back, no, I went on the dirt :hurray:
I know exactly where those places are.

If you want to get lost again find Smythesdale/Staffordshire Reef/Beringa/Moonlight/Cape Clear/Linton/Beaufort areas.

A nice little 200km loop for you here.
Smythesdale VIC to Smythesdale VIC - Google Maps

Around the Ross Creek, Staffordshire Reef, Beringa area there are also some good dirt roads you can explore.

You could actually spend a whole day [or even a weekend if you camp rough in the bush] exploring the area bounded by Ross Creek-Smythesdale-Scarsdale-Cape Clear-Berringa-Dereel-Napoleons-Ross Creek.

A lot of it is State Park and Crown Land with lots of dirt roads as well as trails and some narrow winding tar thrown in for good measure [watch out for kangaroos and locals on tractors and in 4WD's].

I wish I still lived down in the area :fineprint:
 
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