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I am wondering if anyone else would be an MSF ERC course? That is an Experienced Rider Course. I have made some initial contact MSF to start the process out. Get in touch with me if interested. Might like to set it up for next couple of months. PM with your interest.
 

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Jim,

I called all the local (Gainesville) outfits that teach the courses 6 or so months ago and told them that I had at least two folks interested in the ERC. They took my number and told me they would get back with me when they had a class. I have not heard from them since. I suspect they lost my information.

Rick and I are definitely interested but we would prefer to do it locally if possible. Please do keep me posted on what arrangements you come up with and I'll run it by the boss and see what he says. I guess I need to call the local guys again.
 

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Right now I am just gathering info on who might be interested in taking the course. I think we could get about 10/12 of our folks interested in it. Let me know what everyone thinks about when.
 

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Jim:

I took the ERC class with MSF in Miami last September and wasn't thrilled about the experience. I don't think I learned more than when I took the class to pass my license and I consider myself a novice.
 

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ERC Course update

As of right now, the only one interested is Winnie and I would need at least 12 people wanting to take the coursse to beging the proceedings with MSF. I will keep it on the back burner in case it should come up again. Sorry, but not interest.
 

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I see that Jean-Marc did not think his class productive but I've talked with others who said they got a lot out of it. I suppose it all depends on the instructor.
Jim, Thanks for checking. I'm surprised at the lack of interest but then I've only been riding for about 4 years and I know that I've got a lot to learn. I doubt I will ever feel that I'm a pro at anything especially riding safe and smart. BTW Rick is interested and so is Wolfgang and I have a few other friends in the Gainesville area who are interested. I'll see if I can get a class up in the Gainesville area. If I come up with one I'll post to the site.
 

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Winnie,

I would have to agree with your comment about the instructor. That makes all the difference in the world. If the instructor is out there because he enjoys teaching folks how to be safe while riding a motorcycle, you are probably going to have a great experience. If they're out there for the money, it might not be quite as fulfilling.

Personally I believe in taking a riding course every couple of years. Whether it is the BRC, ERC, Race School or whatever else you can think of. Each time you're on a motorcycle, if you're smart, you're also learning how to be better!

Of course this is just my opinion.
 

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Anytime!!!!

Winnie if you are able to put one together, I will be third to sign up (right after you and Rick). Keep us posted as to what you come up with. I'd even come up to G'ville for the course. LOL!!!!
 

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Jim, Marty, I have some questions about the ERC. I just got back into riding last June when I bought my DL1000. The BRC was a great thing to do after being in a cage for 18 years.(Great instructors at ACE in Sanford) I have put almost 8,000 miles on the Strom since last June and don't know if I'm ready for the ERC. I know my skills have improved so when is the right time to do this? do you use your own bike for the class? is there a chance of dropping my new Strom? or do they provide bikes like in the BRC? how tough is the class? is there a pass or fail? and how much does it cost?
Lots of question from an old newbie

Thanks, Mystrom
 

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Mystrom,

The ERC uses your bike. You are required to have insurance on it and are required to sign a waiver of liability.

There is always a chance of dropping your bike when doing slow manuvering.

However the benefits of the ERC, in my opinion, far outweigh the problems you might run in to.

Some of the exercises are similar to those in the BRC, some are very different. But you can never get enough practice with cornering and stopping.

I'm trying to get a couple of ERCs put together now over in Volusia county. It is a one day course, probably a Saturday. My boss will give me some latitude on the price for groups. I'd love to have an all Strom ERC!
 

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I'm trying to get a couple of ERCs put together now over in Volusia county. It is a one day course, probably a Saturday. My boss will give me some latitude on the price for groups. I'd love to have an all Strom ERC!
fl_strom,

Sounds great except if I come there will be at least one HD in attendance. Rick still loves his Sportster and I do not see him buying a Strom just to take the class.
I do not understand the requirement for insurance on the bike. Neither of us have our bike insured. I've always been taught that you only carry insurance on something you cannot live without and cannot afford to replace out of your pocket. We do carry health insurance which would cover damages to our bodies but damages to the bikes are our problem and we take full responsibility. We have talked about getting liability on the bikes. Would that fit the requirement? Liability I can justify, collision and comprehensive is not logical. :?:
 

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fl_strom,

Sounds great except if I come there will be at least one HD in attendance. Rick still loves his Sportster and I do not see him buying a Strom just to take the class.
I do not understand the requirement for insurance on the bike. Neither of us have our bike insured. I've always been taught that you only carry insurance on something you cannot live without and cannot afford to replace out of your pocket. We do carry health insurance which would cover damages to our bodies but damages to the bikes are our problem and we take full responsibility. We have talked about getting liability on the bikes. Would that fit the requirement? Liability I can justify, collision and comprehensive is not logical. :?:
Various laws and requirements pertaining to motorcycles can be found at http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=fl.

I'm with you on collision insurance for motorcycles, but I do carry liability. I'm sure the course requirements pertain to liability only.
 

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On insurance here in Florida there is a thing called the "Florida Financial Responsibility Law" that in essence can cause you to lose your vehicle and be held totally responsible for the total liability in an accident, even if it is not your fault.

If you simply have liability insurance on your motorcycle, then you won't fall under this law.

While it is NOT required to register a motorcycle, it is required to keep from being taken advantage of if you are ever involved in an accident.

 

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That is 100% correct!
 

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Winnie,
you will be surprised how cheap insurance is for a strom. just don't buy an aprilia...hehe
ken
 

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Insurance or ERC thread????

Or a BMW!!!
Also good to have your bike paid off and not having Ins. required by lender. I'm glad I had more than liability when that kid pulled out in front of me.


This thread makes me laugh. For the longest time it had no activity, then when I ssaid I was not going to persue an ERC course down here in my area, the thread got neew life. Go figure. Thanks Winnie for asking and keeping it alive. Maybe we will be better riders someday after the course does become reality.
 

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Winnie,
you will be surprised how cheap insurance is for a strom. just don't buy an aprilia...hehe
ken
Or a BMW!!!


Jim, Ken,

I almost bought a BMW. I've always lusted after a GS. I test rode the older 1100GS which later became the 1150GS and now the 1200GS. BMW seems to think adding a few more CC's will entice a new crowd. The V-Strom was my attempt to be financially responsible and still have my mid life bike fix.

I check on the liability for both bikes right away.
 

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Not to get off the subject of the ERC course, but I sure would love to take the adventure bike course offered by Jim Hyde of RawHyde Adventure in California. I grew up in the Mojave Desert in SoCal, and it would be a trip down memory lane. I'm not sure the "Old Bod" would hold up under the strain. Just dreaming!!

Like everything in life, we need to keep learning how to do thinks better and I'm sure that the ERC course wold help me to be abetter rider.
 
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