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I have the Alpinestars Web Goretex boots..very comfortable..and crush proof enough to protect your ankles when the bike is lying on top of you ( don't ask how I know that..)
 

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I have the Alpinestars Web Goretex boots..very comfortable..and crush proof enough to protect your ankles when the bike is lying on top of you ( don't ask how I know that..)
I've been through two pairs of those, but the Scout is a new model and quite different, so experiences with the Web aren't really relevant.
 

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Can't wait a month :). I leave June 11 on my trip. if you get them in the next couple days, let me know your first impressions.

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Don't know about that specific type but Alpinestars seems to make a very good boot....I have a pair of their "Ridge" boots, very comfortable and very waterproof. I don't know if their other models follow the same trend but these were small for their claimed size, for instance I wear a 10.5 to 11 size boot (10.5 with wide feet) but the boots I purchased say they are size 12...and fit my feet perfectly. So you might have to purchase one size up if this is normal for them.

Only downside is the waterproof boots I have don't breath, and they're so comfortable I tend to leave them on longer than I should, so I'm starting to get a case of athlete's foot due to riding around with sweating feet in the muggy summertime. I was going to post a seperate thread about that with pictures of my feet, maybe I will post them here later instead...hang tight.... :mrgreen:
 

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I don't know if their other models follow the same trend but these were small for their claimed size, for instance I wear a 10.5 to 11 size boot (10.5 with wide feet) but the boots I purchased say they are size 12...and fit my feet perfectly. So you might have to purchase one size up if this is normal for them.
Do not trust Alpinestars sizes. My Web Gore-Tex boots were a Euro 42/US 8. I am a US 9, and those boots fit perfectly. You must try them on, or order from someplace with a liberal return policy (mine are coming from newenough.com).

I was going to post a seperate thread about that with pictures of my feet, maybe I will post them here later instead...hang tight.... :mrgreen:
Porn is not welcome here. :biggrinjester:
 

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Welp, anyways...

Stopped by teh local BMW shop to see what selection they had.

SIDI Canyons Goretex $300: Felt awesome right out of the box but i wasn't so sure about their protection. Very few hard parts. But the actual fit was perfect and probably would require very, very little break in.

SIDI Discovery Rain $325: Didn't feel as great out of the box. Plenty of protection. Flexible enough at the ankle. The fit at the feet was uncomfortable. I think with adequate break in they would be good.

I figured between these two i could get a good boot....so just for kicks i tried on the Adventure Rains....

SIDI Adventure Rain: Great fit, Great protection, fit like a glove right out of the box....$375

Can you guess which one i went with...








Thats right, the Adventures. first ride in them will be an 18 day trip to CO and back.
 

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Nice choice, congrats!

BTW which BMW shop 'round here in NoVA would that be?
 

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Mortons in fredricksburg.

A tough part of planning for this trip is that I'm living and working in Williamsburg for the summer. Started about three weeks ago. Makes it difficult to just walk out into the garage to mess around with packing. So basically this is it.
 

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Initial impressions

Well, it sounds like you won't need this followup, but since the thread exists and someone might stumble across it someday hoping for information about its subject, I'll close the loop:

Wow, these are ... some boots. Here's a photo of them after application of Neatsfoot oil, shown next to my worn-out Alpinestars Web boots:

http://www.flyingjoke.org/motorcycles/misc/scout-boot.jpg

Believe it or not, these Scouts are only a half US size bigger than the Web boots shown there. They're just cut much taller, and have much more substantial construction. I have newfound sympathy for how young women must feel when they learn to walk in high heels -- I feel like Gene Simmons in these things.

What I like:

  • the closures are on the road side (away from the bike), where they belong -- unlike the bike-side closures on the old boots, which had a habit of snagging on the footpeg. I hated that.
  • the waterproof liner goes up past the top buckle, which is higher than the entire height of the Web boot. I do not expect water to be a problem with these.
  • As I expected -- and the reason I chose them -- velcro is not relied upon to hold the boot closed, unlike the Web boot. That was a poor design choice that caused the boot to pop open when flexed, and to be useless before it really should have been.
  • The ease of adjustment of the buckles is outstanding.
  • The soles are very substantial, and seem to be a harder, hopefully longer-wearing material than the old ones.
What I'm not crazy about:

  • These bad boys are very, very stiff. It will take some time to break them in. They lack the flexy seams that the Web had at the front of the ankle, so will rely on the leather softening up. I chose the Neatsfoot oil for the first treatment instead of the usual Nixwax leather wax for this reason; the oil will soften them a bit.
  • The fit is a little narrow, even for my narrow feet, yet they seem a smidge too long, particularly the right one (my left foot is slightly larger than the right, as is fairly common.) I wore them around the house for long enough to satisfy myself that I was ok with the fit; I think that going down to an 8 1/2 (which my old ones are) would result in an uncomfortable left boot. If the space behind my right heel continues to bother me, I can fill it in with some thin foam. It's not like I'll be walking much in this type of boot anyway (unless the bike breaks down). As for the very slight tightness in the width, I'm sure that will loosen up quickly as the leather breaks in.
  • There's not as much ankle protection as I'd like, though there is a small armor plate there.
  • I have my doubts about the longevity of the straps on the buckles. They are a heavy, rubbery plastic, and I bet they'll fatigue and crack before the boot wears out. Luckily, the design appears to facilitate easy replacement of the straps, so it might be possible to refurbish them.
Prima facie, they appear to be more than worth the extra $40 over the Web boot. I'll report back after 6 months or so, during which time I plan to expose them to plenty of extreme conditions.
 

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dtalk, any more reports about the Scouts? I'm strongly considering them for my next boot. Currently I wear some entry level Alpinestars boots that are waterproof and breathable. The model escapes me, but I do love them. Anyway, time to shop for new ones. Your feedback is appreciated!
 

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dtalk, any more reports about the Scouts?
To be honest, I never even think about them anymore, which I regard as a ringing endorsement! They have been outstanding. After I gave them a one-time treatment with Neatsfoot oil, the stiffness went away very quickly (a few days), and they have been demonstrably waterproof even in relentless downpours. They are also the most comfortable boot I've tried.

My only beef with them is that the buckles can be finicky. One of them was somehow damaged, and is now a little hard to snap. I bent it back with small needlenose pliers, and it's been fine since last year, a little recalcitrance aside. They all clasp securely, and the velcro -- which is not integral to the closure system, unlike my Alpinestars "Web" boots -- has held up well also.

I would definitely recommend them. Follow the instructions re: buckling order, bottom to top, and they'll wear in very well.
 
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