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My friend had a 2010 Kawasaki Vulcan 900. He admits he bought it for the looks without thinking too deeply about it. He is tall (6'2) and complained about the cramped riding position.
After riding my wee I saw sparkles in his eyes - he enjoyed it.

So he wanted a standard/adventure bike but with 'more power, 650 is too small'.
The Vulcan was sold 3 days ago.

He test road for 3 hours a BMW R1200GS and also GSA.
Today he called me and said that the GSA was great but "the BMW engine was not as smooth as your V-Strom", and asked for a 1 hour test ride during the weekend on the Wee.
Of course, the 21K OTD price of the BMW is an issue.
His type of riding is casual weekend riding.

I'm going to show him this thread.
Not asking to persuade him to buy a 650cc if he doesn't want it, but any comments from owners of large adventure bikes (BMW R1200GS) are very welcome. The last thing I want is for him to buy the wrong bike (even a Wee) and then quickly sell it, and I'm to blame of course.. :)

I suggested that even if he wants a Wee, wait for 2 weeks to see what the new 2012 Suzuki 'Middle Class' adventure bike is.
A new Vee is not option IMO, as it is basically discontinued.

I told him to look at BMW800 and Tigers (800, 1050) - but not sure if there are any good and close dealers in Northern NJ area. A close to home dealer is a factor.

One more thing, he is pretty locked on a new bike - doesn't want a used bike/warranty issues, etc.

Thanks!
 

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Just a relay of a friends recent experience. He has been riding 40 years and currently has 4 bikes. Bounced 'tween a Versys and the new Tiger 800.

Got the Tiger (non-XC). If your friend likes smooth, the Triumph is smooooth.

You can balance a cup of coffee on the tank and the fluid barely ripples.

Might be an alternative. XC or not - depending on his mission.
 

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You might find better advice relating to the specifics of this question from the Adventure Riders web site. There are all types of bikes represented there and many opinions including a lot of Wee/Vee riders. I always read both forums because of the pure entertainment value.
 

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You might find better advice relating to the specifics of this question from the Adventure Riders web site. There are all types of bikes represented there and many opinions including a lot of Wee/Vee riders. I always read both forums because of the pure entertainment value.
Actually good point, but I feel more at home here.. :)
 

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The hottest bike in the adventure segment right now is the Tiger 800. The GS is a great bike but it's not worth the premium both in purchase price and service, and this from someone that has owned several BMWs.

If I were him I'd compare the tiger 800 to the pending Suzuki updated strom and buy one of those two. If the new Strom doesn't have 10%+ more power than the current one with better brakes and suspension then I'd probably get the tiger.
 

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Difficult situation. If he's convinced the Wee is not enough power for him, the only solution is cubic displacement.

The Beemer 1200GS bikes, even with an internal counterbalancer, are going to vibrate more than your Wee. He would have to get used to it. However, in the last few years, at least in the mid-West, the 1200GS is probably the most popular bike in the BMW lineup. I go to several Beemer rallies every year and they are everywhere.

I looked at the 1050 Tiger before buying my Wee. About the same weight, more power, pretty smooth, higher grade brake/suspension components. But, all of it comes at a price -- it was going to cost me $3K+ to go that direction. For how I use a bike, I didn't think I needed it.

The Yama Tenere is going to begin to be seen here in the US fairly soon. That may be a good option for him since it's 1200cc and shaft drive. Should be a good bike and good competition for the GS. It's about 100# heavier than your Wee but if he can handle a GS, he should be able to manage a Tenere.
 

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Not a big fan of ADVENTURE bikes with 17" front tires......I just don't get it. Not only does it look weird and ungainly, but at that point, realize it's just a sportbike with bolt-upright ergos.....adventure? Maybe in an Eddie Bauer Package Subaru Outback wagon sorta way..........
 

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i never buy new bikes, I always find slightly used, they are so much cheaper and you usually get some farkles thrown in. The Super Tenere is supposed to be amazing, but in these parts the 1200GS is the bike of choice, as was previously posted regarding the midwest. There are plenty of used ones (garage queens) around the $12K range with low miles if you're willing to do the search. We have had 4 GS's and they weren't any more expensive to maintain than any other bike, they all need oil, tires and an occasional adjustment here or there. The reason he thinks your Wee is smoother is in part due to the fact that there aren't as many horses in there. At this altitude displacement makes a big difference. If I had the dough right now I'd be getting this one:

2005 BMW GS 1200

Just my .02
 

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first thing to do is to determine EXACTLY what "adventure" means to him. It sounds like he wants a road bike, maybe one that will do some gravel? We can't have it all. If you get something good/smooth/fast on the road, it is a pig in the sand. Good secondary road/rough stuff bike is too slow or too squirrely on the slab.
That's why I have a Wee set up for cruising, and a DR650 for the rallys.
 

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The Yamaha Tenere should satisfy anyones need for a large displacement Dual sport, but for actual off road use, he will be much happier with the Tiger 800.... funny thing though, even the Wee would perform circles around his 900 Vulcan...
 

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Seems that an 1981 GS1000 would fit the bill quite nicely.....nice torquey motor, cushy suspension, wonderful seat, excellent ergos.......etc.....and that Indiana Jones look everyone covets these days!

 

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He could order a Yamaha Tenere. Good dealer network. Plenty of power, 1200cc. Has been in Europe for several years, so the kinks are worked. Check the Yamaha Tenere forum. Several videos there to see it in action.
 

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If it were my money and I was buying new in the Adventure segment I'd be heading to my preferred KTM dealer and plunking down my cash on either a 990 Adventure R or the 990 Dakar special edition cause I just love KTM blue. Your buddy is tall enough that standover shouldn't be an issue even on the R. I was drooling over a 2010 which has about a 36 inch seat height and if you're over 6 foot it should be totally doable.

The Triumph isn't an option as the only dealer near me is a joke and I won't give them my business.

The Yamaha isn't available and won't be for a while as far as I know. I did sit on one at the show and it was pretty sweet though.

Saying that I dig my DL1k enough I'm just going to hang onto it for a while.
 

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If the wee doesnt' have enough power I suggest the Tiger 800 or 1050. They are supposed to be nice reliable bikes. I don't know about dealers in your area. The BMW GS bikes are nice but $$$$$ to buy and maintain.

The Tiger 1050 is probably my top recommendation because it sounds like he wants power and doesn't care much about offroad.
 

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I saw the my dealer was taking orders for this bike now. It looks very good for the category being discussed but when you read the specs it sounds bigger, heavier, over priced, and looks like a Vee with hard bags that don't come stock. I still like my Wee.

The Yamaha Tenere should satisfy anyones need for a large displacement Dual sport, but for actual off road use, he will be much happier with the Tiger 800.... funny thing though, even the Wee would perform circles around his 900 Vulcan...
 

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funny thing though, even the Wee would perform circles around his 900 Vulcan...
It did, why do you think he sold the Vulcan?
From now on do not say Wee, say Vulcan Killer.. :biggrinjester:
 

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When the new Gheystrom is out, any new Wee becomes a leftover and should be discounted.

Walk in offer 20% off the sticker

Take saved money and farkle away. I guarantee that $1400 thrown at the suspension and you will have a superior bike to anything stock
 
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