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That is the lowest advertised price I have seen, but does it include all fees? Usually, these prices come with shipping and destination, and dealership fees.

I sent them a contact form to find out.

Edit: Just called and there is a what amounts to about 300 in fees on top of the advertised price, plus tax and license, so it is a VERY GOOD price. About $850 lower than the quote I got from Rockingham yesterday.

That would have forced a decision about flying to MN to pick up a bike. It would have been right on the edge of a possibility, but with a $ flight, $ ground transportation, one night in a $ hotel, and meals, not worth the effort for me.

Anyone closer to MN should explore this though.
Yeah, last time I asked there were about $300 in fees. Getting the bike there and in your posession is the real challenge though.

Waiting for a while will probably get you the best deal. But with S it seems hit and miss lately. :cautious:
 

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I disagree with the OTD price includes tax and license. At least for this forums use. We need all other(Dealer) fees, but T & L are state by state and non-negotiable fees. So when you are working deals in your own state at more than one dealer OTD is what you want. Those that are dealing with an out of state dealers want their total W/O T & L. Also on our forum its best to know the TOTAL w/o so that our comparisons are apples to apples.
I live Wash. state that has a 9%+ tax rate. Someone in Oregon(No sales tax state)then can compare price if T & L aren't included.
 

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I agree, OTD means something different when buying out of state.

In the end, no matter what you call the price, what matters is the clarity/transparency of what is being paid.

For example, for me, $9941 OTD for the base model when I pay SC tax and licensing upon returning home is a great deal. A much better deal than I expected.

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Except that the salesman at Discount Cycle in Powhampton VA, comes back from lunch and tells me he quoted the wrong bike and the real price is well above retail. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Oh well. He's really sorry.

Now, what to do? What to do...
Fly to Minneapolis?

I think I'll keep looking.
 

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That is the lowest advertised price I have seen, but does it include all fees? Usually, these prices come with shipping and destination, and dealership fees.

That would have forced a decision about flying to MN to pick up a bike. It would have been right on the edge of a possibility, but with a $ flight, $ ground transportation, one night in a $ hotel, and meals, not worth the effort for me.

Anyone closer to MN should explore this though.
That is the bottom line...just how much effort and expense is there is travel to save a buck. When I bought my last bike (Tiger 900) I have a dealer only 15 miles away. BUT, before buying from him I shopped. A dealer several hundred miles away had the bike for a few hundred less. BUT, travel expense, night at hotel, etc. and the fact that for my two years of warranty time my local dealer would have been less interested in taking care of me...well you have to consider all of this. Local dealer and I came to an agreement and through I ended up paying a couple of hundred more locally the bottom line was that overall I saved a lot of trouble and money and have a local supporting dealer. Someone will always give you a low ball price but there is more to the deal than just a number. Ever notice the cheapest deals always seem to be far away?
 
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I agree, OTD means something different when buying out of state.

In the end, no matter what you call the price, what matters is the clarity/transparency of what is being paid.

For example, for me, $9941 OTD for the base model when I pay SC tax and licensing upon returning home is a great deal. A much better deal than I expected.

Update:

Except that the salesman at Discount Cycle in Powhampton VA, comes back from lunch and tells me he quoted the wrong bike and the real price is well above retail. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Oh well. He's really sorry.

Now, what to do? What to do...
Fly to Minneapolis?

I think I'll keep looking.
Check out MLS Power Sports in KY. I know it might be a bit far to travel but by the time the bike comes in it will be a nice time of year to ride and the trip from Georgetown/Lexington KY would make a down right beautiful trip for you. Fly into town (Lexington) and give me a shout and I can give you a ride over to MLS which isn't far from the airport.
Its in my neck of the woods so any way I can help, give me a shout.
 
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Check out MLS Power Sports in KY. I know it might be a bit far to travel but by the time the bike comes in it will be a nice time of year to ride and the trip from Georgetown/Lexington KY would make a down right beautiful trip for you. Fly into town (Lexington) and give me a shout and I can give you a ride over to MLS which isn't far from the airport.
Its in my neck of the woods so any way I can help, give me a shout.
Thanks, but although I locked in with Rockingham and I'm just going to stay with them.

Advice for shoppers. I was calling what was advertised as no-haggle one-price dealerships to get a price. But they have to call the distributor to get the pre-order information. I have good reason to suspect the distributor let on that I had contacted multiple dealerships and now it's impossible to get a price below retail.

Ford (the car company) is seriously exploring doing away with dealerships and adopting a distribution and maintenance model similar to Tesla's. Prices are fixed, cars are on display, and maintenance is handled by third parties.

That might not be so bad.
 

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Kinda like driving across town to save 20 cents a gallon on gasoline.

I'd do a fly and ride to save some money though. Depends on what your time is worth too. :)
 

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Still think prices are going to drop with all the Fed's rate hikes. Longer you wait, the better the prices.

Just like houses.

I'm fine with my 2012 677. Not really looking to buy RIGHT NOW. But everyone has different timelines. 🤷‍♂️

I got a quote on a 2023 KTM 790 a month ago. Dealer would not budge on anything and $10.9k OTD was nuts! He has even texted me twice.
 

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I would hesitate to do a long ride home with a "strange" bike
Still think prices are going to drop with all the Fed's rate hikes. Longer you wait, the better the prices.

Just like houses.


I'm fine with my 2012 677. Not really looking to buy RIGHT NOW. But everyone has different timelines. 🤷‍♂️

I got a quote on a 2023 KTM 790 a month ago. Dealer would not budge on anything and $10.9k OTD was nuts! He has even texted me twice.
I hope you are right. I've been sitting on the sidelines, renting, for a few years by now.

It is no longer a thing, at least in my market, for sellers to demand - and get - premiums over listing price, from what I'm hearing. So there's that. But, asking prices have only declined slightly.

I have friends and acquaintances who are now "house poor" because they bought in at the peak or near the peak of the market, in the last couple years. Absolutely cripplingly large mortage payments, to me. I guess they thought prices were never going down.
 

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Still think prices are going to drop with all the Fed's rate hikes. Longer you wait, the better the prices.

Just like houses.

I'm fine with my 2012 677. Not really looking to buy RIGHT NOW. But everyone has different timelines. 🤷‍♂️

I got a quote on a 2023 KTM 790 a month ago. Dealer would not budge on anything and $10.9k OTD was nuts! He has even texted me twice.
The FED just nationalized the banking system and legalized bank robbery and fraud. The last thing I would count on is 'traditional wisdom'. Actually, inflation is reducing the purchasing power of your Doe-larz and it all will be getting more expensive in the future.

"Still think prices are going to drop with all the Fed's rate hikes. Longer you wait, the better the prices."

$12,000 for a dirt bike? The longer you wait - the LESS your worth-less Doe-lar will buy. I guarantee it.

My wife and I took a ride for lunch yesterday. Chicken san, bowl of soup, salad & fries. $53.45

edit: + One beer $7.00 & 1 glass of soda $2.50
Hamburgers were $18.99 I dropped 3 20s and left.
 
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