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Semi Duplicate but when I tried to change the title in my original post it wouldn't work properly.

I purchased a new V-Strom 650 last summer (unsold new 2015 model) and really like the bike but want more power. I am seriously considering a new 1000XT model for the yellow but the white bike with cast wheels looks cool as well.

In prior years, it seemed to be a chore to add side cases to a V-Strom which is one reason I went with the 650XT. That bike came with SW Motech cases and I was able to add the top case and use the key the bike came with.

1) So if I buy a new 1000 I'd like to get Givi cases as they have a much larger locking mechanism though in the real world that may not mean much. Has anyone added these cases to a new 1000? Did you have to drill much to mount them on the bike?

2) Are the folks who buy these bikes for thousands off MSRP paying big bucks for freight and assembly? Maybe you folks are not in Washington State but live where discounting is normal? I like to support my local dealer but I have no idea what the bike should sell for. I don't want to put my local dealer out of business and buy cross state as I'll need service locally. But I won't throw away money either. Guess I just have to do the old, "What will you sell it for?" routine like everyone else does and just go from there.

3) Center Stand. I spent four hours trying to mount the SW Motech center stand on my 650 and ended up taking it to the dealer. There were just too many brackets to connect. I have seen video of the Honda Africa Twin and the center stand can be mounted in five minutes for either the Honda or Motech unit. Is either the Suzuki or Motech stand easy to mount on this bike?

4) Heated Grips - I have used Oxford in the past and may do that again unless the Suzuki ones are way better.

5) Crash Bars - If anyone has mounted crash bars and especially if they have added highway pegs please let me know which ones. I have the large one piece highway peg setup on my 650 and while a little bit too far forward and not quite wide enough, I really like having something for feet forward riding.

6) I added a Corbin seat to my 650 and can't really remember how the stock one felt. I like a pretty firm seat and while seat comfort is subjective, anyone who has a 2018 can comment on firmness to see if there is any sort of consensus.

7) My 650 can get 65 mpg at 6,000 feet in Colorado but I normally average mid 50's unless running at 75+ mph. For those who have gone from the 650 to the 1000, how much of a drop did you see? I figure I'll see about the same change.

8) Getting the tank off my 2015 650 means removing about 1000 pieces of plastic. Is the new 2018 1000 any easier to work on?

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If you ask them what they'll sell it for, I'm guessing you won't do very well. Get some prices from distant dealers, and act very willing to go and get it there.

I looked at listings on CycleTrader..com and had the best out-the-door pricing from dealers in Georgia, Virginia and Pennsylvania. Not sure what your state fees and sales tax rate is, but my quoted prices included all that. I stopped in at the local dealer and told them our spring break plans could take us close to any one of them. They matched my best price pretty easily, so they are still making money, I'm sure.
 

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Semi Duplicate but when I tried to change the title in my original post it wouldn't work properly.

I purchased a new V-Strom 650 last summer (unsold new 2015 model) and really like the bike but want more power. I am seriously considering a new 1000XT model for the yellow but the white bike with cast wheels looks cool as well.

In prior years, it seemed to be a chore to add side cases to a V-Strom which is one reason I went with the 650XT. That bike came with SW Motech cases and I was able to add the top case and use the key the bike came with.

1) So if I buy a new 1000 I'd like to get Givi cases as they have a much larger locking mechanism though in the real world that may not mean much. Has anyone added these cases to a new 1000? Did you have to drill much to mount them on the bike?

2) Are the folks who buy these bikes for thousands off MSRP paying big bucks for freight and assembly? Maybe you folks are not in Washington State but live where discounting is normal? I like to support my local dealer but I have no idea what the bike should sell for. I don't want to put my local dealer out of business and buy cross state as I'll need service locally. But I won't throw away money either. Guess I just have to do the old, "What will you sell it for?" routine like everyone else does and just go from there.

3) Center Stand. I spent four hours trying to mount the SW Motech center stand on my 650 and ended up taking it to the dealer. There were just too many brackets to connect. I have seen video of the Honda Africa Twin and the center stand can be mounted in five minutes for either the Honda or Motech unit. Is either the Suzuki or Motech stand easy to mount on this bike?

4) Heated Grips - I have used Oxford in the past and may do that again unless the Suzuki ones are way better.

5) Crash Bars - If anyone has mounted crash bars and especially if they have added highway pegs please let me know which ones. I have the large one piece highway peg setup on my 650 and while a little bit too far forward and not quite wide enough, I really like having something for feet forward riding.

6) I added a Corbin seat to my 650 and can't really remember how the stock one felt. I like a pretty firm seat and while seat comfort is subjective, anyone who has a 2018 can comment on firmness to see if there is any sort of consensus.

7) My 650 can get 65 mpg at 6,000 feet in Colorado but I normally average mid 50's unless running at 75+ mph. For those who have gone from the 650 to the 1000, how much of a drop did you see? I figure I'll see about the same change.

<img src="http://www.stromtrooper.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /> Getting the tank off my 2015 650 means removing about 1000 pieces of plastic. Is the new 2018 1000 any easier to work on?

NC
As for the heated grip go with Oxford..which I did. 1. There cheaper 89$ instead of nearly 300$( canadian dollars).
2 from what I've seen on the web the oem ones are not tough..they last about 2-3years before failling.

For the center stand I have the oem one came with the bike 1000xt se. No trouble to fit sw-motech skid plate.
 

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BigHammer- Did you get the grips yet, or do you have them on order? These appear to have a molded-in throttle cable connection for a single cable throttle, but I can't tell for sure.
 

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BigHammer- Did you get the grips yet, or do you have them on order? These appear to have a molded-in throttle cable connection for a single cable throttle, but I can't tell for sure.
There are 2 cable mounts for throttle and return. Switch has off plus 4 positive click low to hi positions.

Thinking about heated grips and what they really are, there is nothing to these and absolutely no good reason for other brands to be priced as they are. I've seen prices from $50 to $250 and I just don't get it. Maybe there is a difference, but I'll be happy if for less than 20 bucks, I'm not setting mt cruise and fondling my radiator sides just to keep warm.
 

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2) Are the folks who buy these bikes for thousands off MSRP paying big bucks for freight and assembly? Maybe you folks are not in Washington State but live where discounting is normal? I like to support my local dealer but I have no idea what the bike should sell for. I don't want to put my local dealer out of business and buy cross state as I'll need service locally. But I won't throw away money either. Guess I just have to do the old, "What will you sell it for?" routine like everyone else does and just go from there.


6) I added a Corbin seat to my 650 and can't really remember how the stock one felt. I like a pretty firm seat and while seat comfort is subjective, anyone who has a 2018 can comment on firmness to see if there is any sort of consensus.

7) My 650 can get 65 mpg at 6,000 feet in Colorado but I normally average mid 50's unless running at 75+ mph. For those who have gone from the 650 to the 1000, how much of a drop did you see? I figure I'll see about the same change.

8) Getting the tank off my 2015 650 means removing about 1000 pieces of plastic. Is the new 2018 1000 any easier to work on?

NC
2) for my 2018 DL-1000A I paid $9499 plus $500 freight (late October) at my local dealer. Ironically, I found the deal listed on Cycle Trader. Couldn't get to the dealer for almost 2 weeks and I was shocked to see that they still had the bike.

6) That stock seat felt pretty hard to me. I just sent it to Bill Mayer saddles for a rebuild.

7) My 1000 is getting mid-40's from near sea level up to 2000 feet. Of course it's probably not even broken in yet (just about 1000 miles on it.) The mileage does seem to be getting a little better as time goes on.

8) I have not had the tank off, but at work we dug into the tank trim and cowling enough to install a module on the front turn signals. Yeah, there was a whole lot of pieces to remove, lots of things to push and slide and why don't the Japanese just use screws and well nuts like Harley does???
 

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IL, we have a mega-dealer in my area, and is known for low prices. I bought my '14 DL1000 at a stupid-cheap price as a leftover/new. This dealer is famous for it.

Removing or lifting the fuel tank on my '14(similar to the 18) looks daunting from the shop manual, but looking at te, it's not difficult or time consuming at all. All I did was remove the seat and rear tank mount bolt, 4 tank side trim screws at the front, 2 screws at the top of the tank for the center tank trim, 1 screw at the rear of the center tank trim, 4 push-pins at the front of the tank, 1 bolt per side for the steering head/front tank mounts, and a front tank hinge thru-bolt. The piece under the rear tank mount bolt serves as a short prop-rod of sorts, holds the tank up to access to the TPS, for example.
Figre less than 10 minutes before you disconnect the tank electrical connectors and fuel line. I have a ring-lock mounted tank bag, and that mount had to be removed before the center trip could come off the tank, 4 Allen bolts.
Nothing to it but to do it.
 

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1) So if I buy a new 1000 I'd like to get Givi cases as they have a much larger locking mechanism though in the real world that may not mean much. Has anyone added these cases to a new 1000? Did you have to drill much to mount them on the bike?
On my 2018 Vstrom 1000 XT I mounted the GIVI Dolomiti 36L side cases with the Givi Plr3105 case holder rack and you have to enlarge a couple of holes of the rear plastic. Not a big deal.

2) Are the folks who buy these bikes for thousands off MSRP paying big bucks for freight and assembly? Maybe you folks are not in Washington State but live where discounting is normal? I like to support my local dealer but I have no idea what the bike should sell for. I don't want to put my local dealer out of business and buy cross state as I'll need service locally. But I won't throw away money either. Guess I just have to do the old, "What will you sell it for?" routine like everyone else does and just go from there.
I went to my local dealer with a quote from an out of state dealer (via CycleTrader.com) and they matched the price. I paid $9800 with prep and delivery (before taxes).

3) Center Stand. I spent four hours trying to mount the SW Motech center stand on my 650 and ended up taking it to the dealer. There were just too many brackets to connect. I have seen video of the Honda Africa Twin and the center stand can be mounted in five minutes for either the Honda or Motech unit. Is either the Suzuki or Motech stand easy to mount on this bike?
I didn't yet put a center stand on mine.

4) Heated Grips - I have used Oxford in the past and may do that again unless the Suzuki ones are way better.
I live in a desert :)

5) Crash Bars - If anyone has mounted crash bars and especially if they have added highway pegs please let me know which ones. I have the large one piece highway peg setup on my 650 and while a little bit too far forward and not quite wide enough, I really like having something for feet forward riding.
I installed the Givi Tn3105 and I like it. No highway pegs.


6) I added a Corbin seat to my 650 and can't really remember how the stock one felt. I like a pretty firm seat and while seat comfort is subjective, anyone who has a 2018 can comment on firmness to see if there is any sort of consensus.
To me, the seat on the 1000 is firmer and better than on my 2012 650. I didn't yet did long distance on the 1000 though.

7) My 650 can get 65 mpg at 6,000 feet in Colorado but I normally average mid 50's unless running at 75+ mph. For those who have gone from the 650 to the 1000, how much of a drop did you see? I figure I'll see about the same change.
I am getting 48 mpg (premium) with the 1000 and I am a slow rider. With the side cases, it drops to 46 mpg. I was getting 54 mpg (regular) with the 650 (with the enormous OEM side cases). Elevation where a live is 3000 feet.

8) Getting the tank off my 2015 650 means removing about 1000 pieces of plastic. Is the new 2018 1000 any easier to work on?
Didn't have to do it yet.

Hope this helps. Cheers.
 

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Thank you for the thoughtful post. Beautiful bike by the way.

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On my 2018 Vstrom 1000 XT I mounted the GIVI Dolomiti 36L side cases with the Givi Plr3105 case holder rack and you have to enlarge a couple of holes of the rear plastic. Not a big deal.



I went to my local dealer with a quote from an out of state dealer (via CycleTrader.com) and they matched the price. I paid $9800 with prep and delivery (before taxes).



I didn't yet put a center stand on mine.



I live in a desert :)



I installed the Givi Tn3105 and I like it. No highway pegs.




To me, the seat on the 1000 is firmer and better than on my 2012 650. I didn't yet did long distance on the 1000 though.



I am getting 48 mpg (premium) with the 1000 and I am a slow rider. With the side cases, it drops to 46 mpg. I was getting 54 mpg (regular) with the 650 (with the enormous OEM side cases). Elevation where a live is 3000 feet.



Didn't have to do it yet.

Hope this helps. Cheers.
 
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