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Hello,

Has Anyone seen stats on Acceleration for the 2012 (0 to 60 and standing 1/4 mile.) ?

Or, has anyone been to the drag strip with a '12?

Thanks,

--John
 

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No, it is quicker but not a lot on a straight drag.You may find results in some of the magazine reviews.

There's a T intersection on an empty country road on my usual weekend loop with a road sign as a marker - if it's quiet I usually wind the bike out through the gears from the T to the sign - the L2 is ~5kph faster over a couple of hundred m.

A drag strip isn't the whole answer, I did a 4.5 hour ride yesterday and was running about 20 minutes faster than the time on my K6.

The big gain was corner speed and corner to corner acceleration, some of that is handling, some is the wider power band on the L2 The L2 bike accelerates cleanly from around 3k, my K6 from about 4k. So going into a 40k corner @4k rpm on the K6 if I accelerate hard I'd get to 80kph and need a gear change @8k - the L2 entry 40k @3k, change at around 105kph @8k.

That's assuming I'd ride that hard, normally - just cruising - I'd be shifting at about 6k - the K6 I'd be changing gear at 60kph, the L2 at 80kph.

Same sort of gain on downshifts going into corners, there's just a lot more flexibility on the L2 - the net result is that it's quicker A-B.

It'd be a lot closer with a 'professional rider' on both bikes, the power difference isn't great but for just an average rider the L2 eats more miles in the same time, it's more relaxed riding as well despite the slightly higher average speeds.

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If you are deciding on buying a Wee based on quarter mile times... I suggest you look at a completely different bike... No one buys a Wee for speed regardless of the year...
 

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I don''t think my 2012 is any faster than my 2007. I have all of 20 miles on the new bike. If there is a diff, it's unimportant.
 

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Hello Again,

It is not a deal-dependent interest - just curious... actually, what I should have asked is for a complete technical review, similar to what motorcycle consumer news did for the 2004 DL 650 - very thorough - I have not seen this kind of review of the 2012 DL. I realize that acceleration is not what the DL is about - I owned a 2009 for two years... although, I was initially intrigued to find that the '09 had 0 - 60 time of 3.98 seconds - pretty cool!

It is not so much about off the line speed as much as a useful power band - especially in the twisties - without having to shift so much. I am also interested in overtaking speed in the higher gears - for passing safety on the 2 laners.

Call me crazy, but I am interested in returning to the DL after having ridden a Concours 14 for the last year... one reason is that bone stock - without a Power Commander, flies out, and less restrictive pipe, the Connie seems to actually be slower than the DL in the areas I mentioned I am concerned about. I find that I have to shift about the same with the Connie to stay in the power band...

Another concern for me is stability in the wind, and also weather protection... I have looked at the 2012 DL, and I wonder about both of these areas - given the trimmed fairing and being taller than the old DL...

I am also thinking again about off road, and in that vein, the lighter '12 DL is welcome - although, why does mother Suz. insist on us paying an arm and a leg for off road stuff that should be standard?

Sorry for straying from the thread - any info. welcome...

--John
 

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Hello Again,

It is not a deal-dependent interest - just curious... actually, what I should have asked is for a complete technical review, similar to what motorcycle consumer news did for the 2004 DL 650 - very thorough - I have not seen this kind of review of the 2012 DL. I realize that acceleration is not what the DL is about - I owned a 2009 for two years... although, I was initially intrigued to find that the '09 had 0 - 60 time of 3.98 seconds - pretty cool!

It is not so much about off the line speed as much as a useful power band - especially in the twisties - without having to shift so much. I am also interested in overtaking speed in the higher gears - for passing safety on the 2 laners.

Call me crazy, but I am interested in returning to the DL after having ridden a Concours 14 for the last year... one reason is that bone stock - without a Power Commander, flies out, and less restrictive pipe, the Connie seems to actually be slower than the DL in the areas I mentioned I am concerned about. I find that I have to shift about the same with the Connie to stay in the power band...

Another concern for me is stability in the wind, and also weather protection... I have looked at the 2012 DL, and I wonder about both of these areas - given the trimmed fairing and being taller than the old DL...

I am also thinking again about off road, and in that vein, the lighter '12 DL is welcome - although, why does mother Suz. insist on us paying an arm and a leg for off road stuff that should be standard?

Sorry for straying from the thread - any info. welcome...

--John
Since I've had both.

You'll probably love the better power band. Roll on passing rather than shift down and pass for example. Like I said, the difference on a drag strip may not show much, but it's a much easier ride.

Reaction to wind is less, but I put a fork brace and steering damper on the first week so it never got tested at highway speeds stock. I also havn't had it up to seriously illegal speeds, but it feels more stable passing trucks 'quickly'.

Rain protection isn't as good, but wind protection is better. In light rain you'll get damp shoulders and outside legs, with the 06 it was damp shoulders and outsides of knees. No significant buffeting stock. The big win for me though, in heavy rain ice cold water doesn't pool in my crutch to the same extent.

Off road it's a lot better, lighter, steers better, more stable. For me anyway the ABS just works , the big win isn't stopping distances, though I don't lose much if anything there, it's the back end of the bike not wagging around when I lock the rear. I've hit the anchors hard both ends on gravel and the bike just pulls up in a straight line, if I had the balls to do that to my K6 it'd be pretty ugly even if I didn't drop it.

The off road stuff isn't expensive to add.

Personally I'd avoid the Suzuki lower guard, it does nothing to stop crap hitting the bottom of the bike, and my K6 looked like it'd been taken to with a ball peen hammer before I put a sump guard on. There's a lot of stuff comes UP off the road and hits the bottom on dirt roads.

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If you are deciding on buying a Wee based on quarter mile times... I suggest you look at a completely different bike... No one buys a Wee for speed regardless of the year...
True, but 1/4 mile times may be all you can go on for an idea of the kind of passing speed a given bike has before buying it. When i'm in the Rockies wanting to pass a semi on a twisty road doing it fast isn't an option, it's a must. The 650 is good to go for me.
 

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Another concern for me is stability in the wind, and also weather protection... I have looked at the 2012 DL, and I wonder about both of these areas - given the trimmed fairing and being taller than the old DL...

I am also thinking again about off road, and in that vein, the lighter '12 DL is welcome - although, why does mother Suz. insist on us paying an arm and a leg for off road stuff that should be standard?

Sorry for straying from the thread - any info. welcome...

--John
I was riding in gusts in the 40 to 50 mph range on Sunday. My 2012 has not yet had any mods that would have an effect on handling. No fork brace, no change in steering geometry. I have firmed up the Pre-load front and back (I'm a big guy)

My gf was on the back and I found the bike much more stable than my 2006 was when it was stock. I suspect it isn't much different than my 2006 is with fork brace and raised forks. The new bike is much better stock than theold was.

I might put on the fork brace in the next few days but have a pretty busy schedule so it might not happen.

As far as offload goes, no everyone is into the offload stuff. I routinely ride down gravel roads but really look at mine as being a road bike with a bit more flexibility.

..Tom
 

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Even while adhering to the break in I can tell you it is not slow by any means and I am over 215 lbs on any given day. My first impression is the bike feels more secure in corners and therefor inspires greater speed. I bought it more for the ergos than anything though. The fact it had 0% financing was a just a sweetener-
 

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My guess is that it can run in the high 12 second range with a good rider. I got in the high 12's with my 2001 SV650S and a modded one got in the low 12's.

I ran 11.15 sec @ 124 mph with the big SV about 5 years ago..:yesnod: Stretched and dropped ones with a pro rider can get just under 10 seconds!
 

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I broke into the 9s, but my Gstring (or is that weething or gleeclub, I can't keep track) is lowered, stretched bored out and packin nitro.:biggrinjester: just kidding. I'm still in the break in period, and running this thing under 5 grand is like riding a minibike, I think I upshift 3 times in the first 30 yards. I can't wait till I can open her up! It would be funny to see a vstrom tricked out for the track though. Kinda like watching those lawnmower racers :mrgreen:
 

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Hello,

Has Anyone seen stats on Acceleration for the 2012 (0 to 60 and standing 1/4 mile.) ?

Or, has anyone been to the drag strip with a '12?

Thanks,

--John
If you are deciding on buying a Wee based on quarter mile times... I suggest you look at a completely different bike... No one buys a Wee for speed regardless of the year...
Exactly. I agree.
I don't know where anyone got the impression he is basing his buying decision on quarter mile times. Perhaps he's just curious. It's a perfectly valid question. I'd look at the acceleration stats of any vehicle I am considering buying, even a Ford Pick up. It's just another metric.

We all know a strom is slower than an 800xc or even an f "650" gs, but by how much? I wouldn't buy a strom if I was looking for a light weight bike either, but that doesn't mean that I don't want to know how much it weighs.

Inquiring minds want to know things.
 

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I don't know where anyone got the impression he is basing his buying decision on quarter mile times.
Some people have bad reading comprehension, some don't read the whole post before replying, some are ignorant, some are .... well, I'll let SD finish it.
 

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Hello Again,

It is not so much about off the line speed as much as a useful power band - especially in the twisties - without having to shift so much. I am also interested in overtaking speed in the higher gears - for passing safety on the 2 lanes.

Another concern for me is stability in the wind, and also weather protection... I have looked at the 2012 DL, and I wonder about both of these areas - given the trimmed fairing and being taller than the old DL...

Sorry for straying from the thread - any info. welcome...

--John



The '12 has a power band from 4k through 8k that will amaze you.
Seems you can always find the right gear and rpm to pull you through the twisties.

A noted improvement on the new Wee is the re-shaped cowl that many say reduces front end lift. Have not ridden a pre-12 so can only share what has been said by those who have. A fork brace was a good add on and I have no problems passing cars/trucks above 70, with regard to stability or power.

Weather protection is what you would expect for this type of bike. I must be the size the windshield was designed for, minimal to no buffeting for me and I stay as dry as can be ecpected in the rain. If I felt the need to be really dry, I'd be on a Goldwing or in my truck.
You won't be unhappy with a new Wee. I would urge you to read evrything you can here, it all was a big help to me in making my decision to get one.
 

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October 2012 Motorcyclist Test Results

Corrected 1/4 mile: 12.55 @ 100.1 mph
Top Gear roll-on 60 - 80 mph: 4.69
Measured HP: 62.2 hp 8900 rpm
Measured Torque: 41.5ft/lbs @ 6400 rpm
Fuel Mileage (High/Low/Avg) 55/48/50

I'll toss this in a thread of it's own as I'm sure lots of other people will wonder. Sorry no 0 to 60 mph stat; that's one I'm interested in myself. The closest I could find was a claim of "sub-5 seconds."
 

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Looks like the mid 12's is what to expect. ADV or standard model??

Kinda makes me wanna go out there and see what I can do. Pro drag racers are definately better than us mere mortals.
 
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