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AND...going smaller on the front sprocket makes the chain wear the swingarm slider quicker. How much quicker...let me know as it is a major job to pull the swingarm to replace it.

AND...a smaller front sprocket will wear itself out quicker due to less teeth. I would always go up on the big sprocket and spring for a new chain. Its a good mod to do at chain replacement time.

I would change my sprockets in increments of two teeth so the chain line does not change. A 1 tooth change will make your chain run closer to the front wheel stops if chain length istn't changed and too far back if it is. Will it work...yes. But you loose some adjustability.
 
Lot's of good info and opinions here gentleman, but I really guess it boils down to use and load. In Wisconsin no real mountains and I ride mostly back roads 45 to 65 mph. I will do two or three tours this year two of them 2-up and will be up to speed from time to time. I weigh 265.
It would seem some of you may do a little more trail riding than I will do thus the 16/43 likes. I would like just a bit more snappy response in the mid ranges when I roll on the wick, without sacrficing mileage and cruiseability too much.
Now that being said, I will take this whole riding season to get comfortable with this new to me ( 07 V with 8K on the clock ) and prepare it for a ride to the arctic circle next year. Perhaps a different gear setup ill be required then as well, I hope not as I would just like to find a happy place to stay.
Thanks for all of your input and help
 
Oh yes, and for you that like the 17/43 over the 16/41 why. Maybe this will be the direction I should think about. No need to change out the chain I wouldn't think
Thanks again
 
I tried 16/41 and liked it. When it became time to replace the chain I switched to 17/ 43 thinking it would be better for chain wear to have the bigger front sprocket. For me either way is pretty good. It gives the bike a bit more snap but I can still cruse at 80 on the freeway without buzzing the motor. It is easy and cheap to try a 16 and see how you like it.
 
AND...going smaller on the front sprocket makes the chain wear the swingarm slider quicker. How much quicker...let me know as it is a major job to pull the swingarm to replace it.

AND...a smaller front sprocket will wear itself out quicker due to less teeth. I would always go up on the big sprocket and spring for a new chain. Its a good mod to do at chain replacement time.

I would change my sprockets in increments of two teeth so the chain line does not change. A 1 tooth change will make your chain run closer to the front wheel stops if chain length istn't changed and too far back if it is. Will it work...yes. But you loose some adjustability.
This is why. The stock front is 17. Look at your bike and how the chain runs over the slider on top of the swing arm. Why induce MORE wear by moving the chain closer to the slider.

Going 17 to 16 in front is an easy way to cheaply change ratios because you can reuse the stock chain...although your wheel will now be closer to the front of the bike.

I just bought the whole set up. Sprockets and chain. I went back with stock since 95% of my riding is on road. I considered going 17/43 or 44....the best combination for wear and lowering gearing. IMHO of course. remember...you cut chains in increments of two teeth, that is why I like to adjust ratios 2 teeth at a time.

I expect arguement and to be drawn and quartered over my analness.
 
16T will not cause any swingarm wear, there is a slider there for a reason

Yep sure is there for a reason, to keep chain from sawing through the aluminum. With a 16T front, the chain will run that much closer to the slider on top and will increase the wear. Will it saw itself in two overnight....no way.

I am not into repairing stuff that I can extend its useful life span. My XR 400 ate its slider pretty quick after I dropped a tooth up front, no biggy as the slider is replaceable on my Honda without swingarm removal. The strom slider is not so easily replaced for some assinine reason.

But if you are more concerned with a better set up than not buying a new chain, it is always better to go up in rear before down in front
 
With a 16T front, the chain will run that much closer to the slider on top and will increase the wear.

closer, no,

the chain slides on the slider as it is, reducing the number of teeth does not increase the weight of the chain or the pressure it puts on the slider



 
The Wee does fine with a 15T sprocket on basically the same frame layout.
 
My XR 400 ate its slider pretty quick after I dropped a tooth up front, no biggy as the slider is replaceable on my Honda without swingarm removal. The strom slider is not so easily replaced for some assinine reason.
If I trade my Wee for a Vee the 16/43 will be one of my first mods. To remind you Vee owners the Wee comes with a 16T and many riders drop to a 15T with few if any problems.

As an aside, similar to the above quote, I also wish the V-Stroms were as simple to service as my XR400R. On that bike chain sliders can be changed in no time. Chain adjustment is done with a simple clicker. Valve adjustments don't require shims or removal of a crazy amount of body parts to gain access. But both bikes have been bulletproof and are happy stablemates.
 
To remind you Vee owners the Wee comes with a 16T and many riders drop to a 15T with few if any problems.
The Wee comes with a 15T and a tiny number of owners went to 14T. A more common change is going one up.
 
when under acceleration, the chain is taught and does not touch the slider, its when yer under deceleration that there is slack in the top half of the chain

if you wear sliders faster than normal, just means you engine brake more often than most

2 grooves from the sideplates wear pretty quick, once the grooves are deep enuf that the rollers start hitting there is hardly any more wear unless the chain is worn



 
I will not bother arguing with either of your gentlemens "logic". But I do go with my experience and gut feel more than most. My gut says go bigger in the rear.

My brain says the swing arm is moving up and down as I ride. The chain is in tension on top some and on bottom some. The chain line is also changing since the swing arm doesn't pivot at the counter sprocket centerline.

I will just continue with doing what seems correct to me based on simple measurements and the fact the diameter of a 16t is smaller than a 17t (but you may correct me here also) and be happy you did not blast me on making changes two teeth at a time regardless of my other comments.

It is also better to make sure the front sprocket tooth count is not a mutiple of the rear sprocket. Ie 15 front 45 rear so the chain doesn't run on the same teeth all the time. This is typically not an issue with street bikes since the rears are smaller than dirt bikes.
 
The Wee comes with a 15T and a tiny number of owners went to 14T. A more common change is going one up.
Oops!! Well I'll pull my foot out of my mouth. :headbang: How the hell do you correctly remember these details so well anyway? :confused:
 
The Wee comes with a 15T and a tiny number of owners went to 14T. A more common change is going one up.
Tried 14, 15, and 16 on the Wee. My wife and I both really enjoyed the 14 best. Guess I'm part of a tiny number. Nothing new about that.
 
:) If you are thinking 16/43 is your only option for better performance on the Vee, try going 17 - 45t instead, The bigger tooth count 17 will deliver more available power to the rear wheel and the 45t rear makes the end gearing pretty much the same,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
 
stock sprockets

i did the sprocket change thing and didn't like it. from my experience, i found that its much easier, cheaper, less work, to simply run in a lower tranie gear with stock sprockets. works OK for me. :beatnik: g-luck with your bike and ride safe.
 
i did the sprocket change thing and didn't like it. from my experience, i found that its much easier, cheaper, less work, to simply run in a lower tranie gear with stock sprockets. works OK for me. :beatnik: g-luck with your bike and ride safe.

when the reason for a gearing change is to be in top gear @ 60mph, I can't agree more

unfortunately there is no gear lower than first and first is just too tall for some situations

I like that the Vee has a tall overdrive, I dislike that it doesn't have a granny low

I went up 1 in rear to 42 when I converted to 530, helps some and I still don't loose my tall overdrive



 
:) If you are thinking 16/43 is your only option for better performance on the Vee, try going 17 - 45t instead, The bigger tooth count 17 will deliver more available power to the rear wheel and the 45t rear makes the end gearing pretty much the same,

Enjoy the ride, and best regards,
Blair
How does keeping a larger (stock) front sprocket "deliver more available power"?

With all other things being equal, the smaller the front sprocket the higher the mechanical advantage. This would mean that a smaller front will deliver more torque (power) than a larger one. Same is true with a larger rear sprocket. It's all about the mechanical advantage.

here are the numbers:
The stock final drive ratio of 17/41 is 2.4118:1
17/43 is 2.5294. (~4.9% lower than stock)
16/41 is 2.5625. (~6.2% lower than stock)
17/45 is 2.6477. (~ 9.8% lower than stock)
16/43 is 2.6875. (~11.4% lower than stock)
 
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