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post #1 of 19 Old 01-10-2013, 01:40 AM Thread Starter
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HID- I am thinking about this suppler

HID Kits Xenon Lights & LEDs | Xenon Supply
They are US based, good support, good warranty (3 years), and answered my e mailed questions promptly
AC power source gives better longevity, ballasts are digitial, and I am hoping it will last
Has anyone used them? Am I nuts to spend $$$ (my experience always has been cheaper is cheaper)
Their Bi-xenon with the smaller ballast is almost about $160
9003 Standard Bi-Xenon HID Conversion Kit

Also I am thinking about using one at a time for more power savings, I guess I can rig a relay to turn one off (or do the Beaver places one- but seems pretty pricey for a relay)

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post #2 of 19 Old 01-10-2013, 02:08 PM
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DDM Tuning 35W and 55W HID Kits

Good supplier.

Get the 35w, 5000K, H4 hi-lo kit. $50

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post #3 of 19 Old 01-11-2013, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks-do you have that kit?

Is it Bi-xenon HID? (has a shutter that drops when for low beam). How long has it lasted?

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Its got a mechanism than moves the bulb back and forth for the correct hi-beam.

I've had them in for just about 3 years now, no issues

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Its got a mechanism than moves the bulb back and forth for the correct hi-beam.
The shutter moves, not the bulb. I did have a sticky shutter on one.

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The entire bulb with shield moves on the kits I've used from two different sources. I have a cutout switch and can watch it without being blinded by the light. Since the difference between high and low on the stock lamp is the position of the light spot, I believe the HID lamp has to move to do it right.

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GW's input confused me. Is true the only difference between the low and high beam on the HID bulb is the position of the shutter? If true, then both beams consume the same amount of power.

Could GW provide a bit more detail about his cutout switch.
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Bi-Xenon HID lamps are mounted on a solenoid that pushes the bulb in and out. If you look at a standard bulb, it has two filaments, one closer to the tip and one closer to the base. The Bi-Xenon HID lamp positions its arc at the same points as a halogen lamp has its filaments. The big difference between high and low beams is the beam pattern, not the brightness. The HID arc is brighter than either the low or high halogen filament.

You cut the red wire between the relay and the ballast of the light you want to cut out. Never cut the high voltage wire between the ballast and the lamp. Always cut the 12V wire between the ballast and the relay. Run a wire from each cut end, two in total, to the two wires on the cut out switch. The switch at Switches is good for 5A or 60W-70W depending on the bike voltage. That's enough to handle one headlight.

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35/55 watt kits

I studied the Xenon Supply site and they prefer a 35w system. DDM says a 35w H4 conv puts out ~ 3300 lumens and a 55w conv puts out 5,000 lumens with a hotter bulb. I am tending to the 35w conv because I want to save power. Opinions??

There is a huge price different between Xenon Sup and DDM but there shouldn't be. Both are using digital ballasts. I think I have to have a relay so I have to get the XS accessory wiring harness, though it remains to be known if the handle bar light switch wires can be connected to the relay and then have everything work correctly. Opinions about the price points and which supplier would you tend to use. Thanks.
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Definitely go with 35W. You want a kit with a relay. The relay is connected to the stock wiring so the stock switches just throw the relay and the solenoid that chooses between high and low.

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