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post #1 of 25 Old 06-13-2011, 06:59 AM Thread Starter
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Nuvi 360 GPS went crazy on me

Not directly related to V-Strom, but happened on my v-strom. Thought it could help others.

Yesterday I rode on a GPX route I pre-planned (Google maps KML converted to GPX - If anybody wants to learn a free quick method I can gladly post it).
It was 100% cloudy but the GPS worked fine when I started.
At some point I lost satellites but then it came back, then in the mountains I lost it. This went on for 30 minutes, and I'm getting lost and assuming it is the weather and the mountains.
But this never happened in the past so long.
I stopped, took out my mobile GPS (Android) and what do you know, instant connection. So I'm thinking ?!?!
Disconnected the GPS from the charging cable, and suddenly I get full 5 bars ?!?
How can than be related? Put the the cable back, immediately down to 0 bars but still charging sign.
I got back home on battery GPS, not doing the route as I have wasted 1 hour on this issue.

Later at home, I verified that some how the Garmin charging connector (USB up angle B male) or Garmin charger are faulty - have no idea why this happened, maybe the vibrations.
I connected another 12->5 charger (from my coocase volt package) and it works fine. The coocase charger was connected to the bike and to my Minivan.
Anyway, only $16 to replace with new charger (I don't think getting a new connector and soldering is worth the effort and time, and it could be a faulty charger, not the connector), but getting stuck away from home without a GPS is not the best experience..

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I use a Garmin Nuvi and could use info on that.

I will now carry a spare 12V charger for mine [my Blackberry had the same plug so I have a couple of spare leads for the car and bike, my new HTC Android is different].

The only thing I've noticed when using a non Garmin power lead is that the Garmin thinks it's hooked to a computer when first turned on, it does connect to the satellites and function normally once it runs through the start up process.

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I use a Garmin Nuvi and could use info on that.

I will now carry a spare 12V charger for mine [my Blackberry had the same plug so I have a couple of spare leads for the car and bike, my new HTC Android is different].

The only thing I've noticed when using a non Garmin power lead is that the Garmin thinks it's hooked to a computer when first turned on, it does connect to the satellites and function normally once it runs through the start up process.
Nuvi 360 has two USB ports:
1. One on the side, which is used for connecting to a PC and also charges the battery. When the charger is put there the GPS cannot be used interactively, it goes into 'Data Transfer' mode
2. One on the back that requires a special black plastic adapter. The adapter has a female USB B connector on its back and a wide male connector on its front that goes into the GPS.

The second option must be used.
Not sure what model you have, but Garmin are very consistent in their GPS design. Most of the differences are software features and different screens.

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I will now carry a spare 12V charger for mine [my Blackberry had the same plug so I have a couple of spare leads for the car and bike, my new HTC Android is different].
Sorry, forgot to add - I will not normally carry another one. The batteries easily would have lasted two hours, it was just surprising and annoying to loose 'faith' in something we take for granted.
How did we live before GPS? :mrgreen:

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How did we live before GPS? :mrgreen:
I've had GPS since it first became available in the 90's. I also still carry paper maps for the big picture. The big downside to paper maps is that they don't tell you where you are.

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I've had GPS since it first became available in the 90's. I also still carry paper maps for the big picture. The big downside to paper maps is that they don't tell you where you are.
I only started using GPS ever since we moved to the USA about 5 years ago.
Back in Israel it was not needed - I knew most of the roads and cities, and it is a small country. Worst case you ask somebody, it was quite a common thing to do.
My wife and I literally traveled around the world back in 97, and also traveled in Europe later in 2004 - all without a GPS and it was just fine.
The problem with the GPS is that it kills your natural/manual navigation skills - just like what a calculator does to kids ability to perform simple calculations. Most kids (actually most people) can't multiply or divide long numbers (as in more than 2 digits..) without a calculator. Why work hard if there is a faster electronic way?
I'm used to navigation by sun at day and stars at night from my army training, but I'm afraid the next generation (my kids) will have no idea where the north is without some electronic guidance.

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The problem with the GPS is that it kills your natural/manual navigation skills
Naw, I still have a great sense of direction and still take plenty of detours. The GPS just makes it easier to avoid doubling back when you're feeling adventurous but don't really have the time. :mrgreen:

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I don't use the power adapter that came with my Garmin while on the bike. I bought a USB adapter from Powerlet.com and then added their special 90 degree adapter cable for Garmin devices. I use a high quality USB cable to go in between the two. There is no guarantee that this will keep me from having a failure, but the high quality power adapter and cabling reduces the chances of it. It was worth paying more IMHO to get a high quality vibration resistant 12 volt to USB adapter from these folks along with the special cabling, I feel that this was/is one area that I should not cut corners on even though they cost a bit more.

The power adapter that came with my Garmin was visibly low cost and I don't trust it for something this important to me.

I do carry paper maps as well.

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I don't use the power adapter that came with my Garmin while on the bike. I bought a USB adapter from Powerlet.com and then added their special 90 degree adapter cable for Garmin devices. I use a high quality USB cable to go in between the two.
Doug - thanks for that info.
Could you please point me to the pages of the mentioned hardware? In particular the 90 degree adapter cable.

EDIT: Doug, nm, I think I've found it.. $$ expensive..I'll take my chances with another stock Garmin charger, hopefully it will last.
Just the connector: ($13)
http://www.powerlet.com/product/mini...garmin-gps/357

The whole charger ($45 - wow, pretty much for a small 12->5 charger) : (too short, a usb extension cable must be needed, another good $10 I guess)
http://www.powerlet.com/shop-by-appl...t-cable/259/67

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Yeah, I had 2 Nuvi 360s fail on me within about 3 months. First one had weird display artifacts on the screen.

They sent me a replacement.

Then the replacement got to the point where it would randomly drop from solid signal bars on the signal strength screen to hollow signal bars (not sure what that means, but it would lose reception).

Fortunately the 3rd one has lasted me for years and years now.
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