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post #1 of 15 Old 04-25-2011, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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Eastern Beaver 3CS - Power Source Concerns

I hope this is the right forum, and I apologize now - I am not an electrician so please pardon what I am betting is a dumb question.

I am looking at the Eastern Beaver 3CS for my new bike - plan is to run a GPS, a cigarette socket (probably via a Bags Connect set up) and possibly heated hand grips later on. I want to be able to run an air compressor off the cigarette socket (probably never need it, but want the ability to).

My question is this - given my understanding from the EB site - the 3CS pulls power from the Rear Tail Light - If I was running my GPS, charging my cell phone AND running heated grips, could I blow the fuse for the Rear Tail lights?

Am not sure I am doing a good job of asking my question (mostly because of lack of knowledge on my part!) - basically I would think the source would have an upper limit (regardless of the fuse limits in the 3CS that is driving the accessories) - so is it possible to not overdraw the power/current on the 3 accessories but still overpower the power source?

Or has greater minds than mine already figured this out and I should not be concerned?

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It pulls power directly from the battery/charging system... The tail light power is only used to switch the relay in order to suppy the power to the 3 circuits (as I mentioned earlier is directly from the battery).

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That was fast!

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It pulls power directly from the battery/charging system...
So - basically, my concern is not an issue. Thanks for responding so quickly!

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So - basically, my concern is not an issue. Thanks for responding so quickly!

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Yep, no worries... It is a straight forward install if you have a 650 (not sure about the 1000) once you locate the tailight plug, which is under the gas tank near the coolant overflow tank. Plug and play, really....

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Richard basically covered it- the wire to the light only acts as a trigger to run the relay on.

The only thing I'll add- since you mentioned a cigarette socket- is to consider a Powerlet socket instead. It's smaller, more robust, and positively engages. I had a cigarette socket on a previous bike that I was using to power a GPS, and the plug would vibrate itself loose and lose contact. Of course, I would discover this only after the battery on the GPS was nearly depleted. Cigarette sockets aren't a great solution on a moto, IMHO.
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The Powerlet Company also makes high quality cigarette sized outlets. Marinco boat cigarette sockets are also good on motorcycles, and West Marine brand sockets are about the same as Marinco at a lower price. The Powerlet special sized plugs and sockets are great when they can be used, but they can't be used when the cigarette plug for a device contains a voltage reduction circuit.
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Powerlet vs. Cigarette adapter

My plan is to wire my GPS directly to the battery - and then into a Fusebox or 3CS (once I stop being so lazy and order it), so I am not concerned about the power plug for the GPS coming loose.

I will be ordering a Bags Connect system with the electrified tank ring. The ring will be wired into the fuse box/3CS and inside the bag will be the cigarette adapter. It's main use will be to recharge my ipod or cell phone, and in an emergency, possibly run an air pump. While vibrations will be an issue for the ipod/phone, I am not too concerned about it.

Then again - with my luck, I will be posting about the problems I had with my cigarette adapter in about 6 months :mrgreen:

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Hi all from Italy!

Sorry in advance for my very poor knowledge of electrics...

I just installed the 3CS kit on my k10 DL650 ABS, the only difficult thing was to reach the "switched" connector under the coolant tank.

Then, I'm going to install Denali D2 kit I ordered with full wiring harness. In the instructions ( http://www.twistedthrottle.com/filem...download/3172/ ) in page 3 (or 4, depending of two options, but it's out of scope here) there are wiring diagrams.

In diagrams we have:

- 2 lights (connected to the control box)
- the control box
- POS (with fuse) and NEG running from control box to battery
- relay connected to control box
- switching wire connected to relay.
- high-beam wire (out of scope here).

My question is: how can I mix this kit with the 3CS? I'm really confused
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To use them together, follow the Denali wiring diagram except for the connections to the battery. Instead, connect the red and black leads from the module that would normally go to the battery to one of the three sets of red and black outputs from the 3CS. Don't use the inline fuse that comes with the Denali. A 20A fuse in the 3CS for that output will handle fusing.

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Thank you very much, Greywolf! But what about Denali switching wire?
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