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post #1 of 27 Old 03-12-2011, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Advice needed with GPS Wiring

Hi,
I search the threads and learned quite a lot, but still have some things not clear.
First, I have a Nuvi 360 which is loading dust in the closet, and I think it is just fine for me.
So I learned the following:
1. A Pat Welsh Shelf can hold the mount
2. I can get a screw in a mount into the shelf. If anybody has a recommend screw in mount for Nuvi 360 - please do.
I saw a RAM Mount, but it looks kind of tall. Wouldn't it touch the windshield (Stock BTW).
Ram Mount Nuvi 3xx Series Screw Down Plate Mount (RAM-B-138-GA21U)

3. An EB P-8 fuse box is recommended.

What I don't understand is how to wire..
How do I lay the electric wire between the battery/fuse-box and the shelf?
How does the wire go behind/around the dash board without interfering with the steering?
Should I cut the the GPS charger chord? (Red arrow or Green Arrow)


Sorry - a bit Noob on this..but learning..!

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I too am wiring up a gps unit...a nuvi 780 from eBay. As I understand it, you can't cut the car adapter and hardwire it in because the car adapter also converts the volts. I found a hardwire component (search for "nuvi 360 hardwire") that has bare leads to connect to my EB fuze box and a voltage converter in the middle of the cable.
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Hi,
I search the threads and learned quite a lot, but still have some things not clear.
First, I have a Nuvi 360 which is loading dust in the closet, and I think it is just fine for me.
So I learned the following:
1. A Pat Welsh Shelf can hold the mount
2. I can get a screw in a mount into the shelf. If anybody has a recommend screw in mount for Nuvi 360 - please do.
I saw a RAM Mount, but it looks kind of tall. Wouldn't it touch the windshield (Stock BTW).
Ram Mount Nuvi 3xx Series Screw Down Plate Mount (RAM-B-138-GA21U)

3. An EB P-8 fuse box is recommended.

What I don't understand is how to wire..
How do I lay the electric wire between the battery/fuse-box and the shelf?
How does the wire go behind/around the dash board without interfering with the steering?
Should I cut the the GPS charger chord? (Red arrow or Green Arrow)


Sorry - a bit Noob on this..but learning..!
Just a thought, but why cut the power/converter wire at all. You can wire a simple cigar lighter socket into the Pat Walsh shelf and then just plug into it. Then you have killed two birds with one stone. You now have accessible power on the shelf for U name it. (air compressor) The converter has it's own fuse, so you can wire the cigar socket with 10 gauge and 30a fuse. This 2/wire 10g will come from both battery terminals and follow the frame with zip ties to secure, similar to any wire coming up to front of the bike, and then it will route up into the area under the windshield bracket to pass through a hole drilled into the bracket housing under the shelf. Excess wire from the converter can be rolled up neatly out of the way as you please. This method leaves the converter in tact for emergency use in your cage.
The suction cup mount can be riveted directly to the shelf by drilling 4, 1/8 in holes in the perimeter of the base.

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@TheCopperOne: Thanks, will look into it.

@HonestBob: Great idea and excellent descriptions.
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and then it will route up into the area under the windshield bracket to pass through a hole drilled into the bracket housing under the shelf.
Not sure I fully understand you. So I have 10g line going from the battery along the shield all the way to the front.
How does the line go up to the shelf? Can it go from behind the dashboard (between the dashboard and winshield, see blue arrow in image below)?


Is there some method that does not require drilling the bike? Or did you mean only drilling the shelf it self so the line comes from the bottom?

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You can run the wires from the battery along the frame and up by the gas tank. There's a really good gap between it andthe mount for the tank. Then along the fairing and then fished up in the gap on the front cowl by the windshield mount. Use zip ties & 3M adhesive tabs to keep it out of the way and hidden.
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@TheCopperOne: Thanks, will look into it.

@HonestBob: Great idea and excellent descriptions.

Not sure I fully understand you. So I have 10g line going from the battery along the shield all the way to the front.
How does the line go up to the shelf? Can it go from behind the dashboard (between the dashboard and winshield, see blue arrow in image below)?




Is there some method that does not require drilling the bike? Or did you mean only drilling the shelf it self so the line comes from the bottom?

Thanks!
If you don't want to drill, look down a little lower to where the lower windshield bolts go in and you will see a space/hole under each of them that is about 1.5" long and 1/2' wide. The windshield bracket kind of slides in there. Lots of room for the wire to exit there on either side of the bracket feet. You will be able to see the wire thru the shield when the wire has been installed but a little hot melt glue, to hold it straight, and/or use of black wire should make it nearly invisible. Sorry, I was suggesting you drill through the plastic in my original description.and yes, you would then drill through the shelf a hole large enough for the cigar lighter. You can buy a cigar lighter that is for marine use, ie; water proofed. Cigarette Lighter Plug Socket - Marine rated for Boat Use - 12 & 24 Volt Use - CP-S-1 - www.MagnaLight.com Spotlights and Flashlights If you tell Pat the Diameter of the hole you want and it's location, I think he may do it for you before it's powder coated. Keep in mind that the socket will stick down below the plate so you will want it located so it won't interfere with the gauges. Pat can probably advise you. Good luck with the install, and don't hesitate to ask if you need more help.

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@10-95: Thanks, will follow this direction
@Honest Bob: Thanks a lot, hopefully I'll stay out of trouble but if I get stuck would ask for your help.

Maybe I'll fully document this for future generations when I start this mini project - I wish there was a very detailed guide for all of these DIY farkles, but a guide that would not assume any prior knowledge of lingo/advanced skills - as in a 'guide for noobs'.

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Bob gives great advice... I have a 12v socket that gets it's power from a bluesea fuseblock. I have a ram mount in the middle of the windshield and on the right handlebar. I prefer the handlebar mount for my nuvi.


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@10-95: Thanks, will follow this direction
@Honest Bob: Thanks a lot, hopefully I'll stay out of trouble but if I get stuck would ask for your help.

Maybe I'll fully document this for future generations when I start this mini project - I wish there was a very detailed guide for all of these DIY farkles, but a guide that would not assume any prior knowledge of lingo/advanced skills - as in a 'guide for noobs'.
Oh, I'm sorry, you want "Farkle 101 for Dummies". Not out yet. I wanted a copy of that when I started out too :beatnik:. But now I'm glad it wasn't available. I did it "My Way". And darn proud of it, and darn thankful for this forum and the people who day after day reach out to help with their knowledge, and for the people who acknowledge that they have been helped. Your more than welcome BigMan73.
By all means document your project. You would be surprised how it will benefit someone. You may even come back to it in a few years and say, so that's how I fastened this or that.

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Oh, I'm sorry, you want "Farkle 101 for Dummies". Not out yet.
Hey, that's a great idea for a book and/or website..

Bob, although I completely agree about the re-use factor, the problem with the lighter approach is that it is a bit complicated. To do it properly I need a fuse box. I like the idea a lot just not crazy about implementing it myself. ("Know your limits"..)

So here's a question, since the bike's instruments in the cockpit already get 12V and since the GPS does not really require much Amps, couldn't I just build a simple 12V->5V regulator (With a small inline fuse) and hook it up to existing wiring?

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