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Garmin GPS won't talk to Blueant helmet comm. Help!

Just bought a Garmin 1390T GPS and can't get it to connect to my BlueAnt helmet communicator.

Anyone else had this problem?

Looking for suggestions on how to get it to work.

No problem getting my Blackberry connected to the BlueAnt comm. and have also got the Blackberry to connect to the Garmin GPS

Do I have to run the GPS through the phone to the helmet comm. ?

PITA if that's the case

Only bought the GPS because it has bluetooth and thought it would connect directly to the helmet

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How many devices can the BlueAnt recognise?

I would re set it to factory default and pair it with the Garmin first (make sure Bluetooth on the phone is turned off or it out of range) and see what happens.

Does the Garmon have one or two channels? If it only has one (I suspect that it will) you may have to choose between the Garmin or the phone but not both.
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How many devices can the BlueAnt recognise?

I would re set it to factory default and pair it with the Garmin first (make sure Bluetooth on the phone is turned off or it out of range) and see what happens.

Does the Garmon have one or two channels? If it only has one (I suspect that it will) you may have to choose between the Garmin or the phone but not both.
Hi Kiwi,

The BlueAnt handles up to five separate connections.

No idea what the Garmin does/has.
The instruction book is about as thick as a piece of toilet paper and has about as much written on it.

I'm guessing it only has one channel.

I tried connecting as per the Garmin instructions with all other BT devices turned off.
The Garmin didn't find anything to connect to even though the helmet head set was on and in pairing mode only a few inches away.

I then turned the Blackberry on and connected the GPS to the phone first go.

Wasted my dollars if I can't get it to talk to my helmet

The GPS is visible in most daylight conditions but no good if the sun gets too direct on it [naturally].
As it is not waterproof I put it in the box I made [as per my other thread] but through the plastic lid it is not all that visible.
The bluetooth capability was to be the backup for when the screen is not visible

On the plus side for the Garmin, the standard windscreen suction mount sticks to the perspex screen on the Wee like glue [near the edge of the screen, not in the middle].
I will still get a better ram mount or may have to resort to an AquaBox, just to make sure I don't lose the GPS.

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Are you trying to get the Garmin to give you voice directions via BT in your helmet?

If so, pretty sure you might be wasting your time. Almost positive that ONLY the Zumos have the ability to send GPS text to speech via BT.

The only thing you can connect your BT receiver to, is your phone.

I don't think any of the non Zumos can send audio via BT, be it music or directions.
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CHIA may well be right on the other models.... I don't know about anything but the Zumo. I can comment on my experience with the Zumo 550 in hopes that some of this might be useful.

I have a Zumo 550, J&M BT helmet system in a Nolan NCom helment, and use a Blackberry Tour. I can connect both the Blackberry and the helmet system to the Zumo, at the same time, however the Zumo BT settings have to be adjusted to "Phone only". Otherwise the Zumo sees a conflict and will reject one or both connections. In this mode I can run my phone through the Zumo, which allows me to drive the phone from the Zumo touchscreen, which is nice with gloves on. However this mode does NOT allow me to receive GPS directions or any non-phone audio from the Zumo. What it does allow, however, is for me to play music from the Blackberry and still use the Zumo for phone service. This is important as the Zumo 550 does not support A2DP stereo over BT, so while it has an MP3 player it will only transmit the music in mono via BT. It will do full stereo with a wired connection to the audio out jack, but that sort of defeats the purpose of the BT helmet set-up! I understand the Zumo 660 has corrected this issue, but at their prices I will probably never know...

Because I am much more frequently interested in music vs GPS instructions, I generally run in the mode described above. I still use the GPS, I just watch for screen instructions rather than depend on the audio. On the rare occasion where I want the GPS audio, I simply change the BT setting on the Zumo from "Phone Only" to "Phone, GPS and Audio". This eliminates my ability to stream music from the Blackberry, but allows me full audio from the Zumo.

Again I hope this is helpful in some way. In any case good luck! The whole BT world seems to often be a moving target!

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Just bought a Garmin 1390T GPS and can't get it to connect to my BlueAnt helmet communicator.

Anyone else had this problem?

Looking for suggestions on how to get it to work.

No problem getting my Blackberry connected to the BlueAnt comm. and have also got the Blackberry to connect to the Garmin GPS

Do I have to run the GPS through the phone to the helmet comm. ?

PITA if that's the case

Only bought the GPS because it has bluetooth and thought it would connect directly to the helmet
Take a look at webbikeworld.com, I believe that they did a review of the Blueant and may have a suggestion. Some solutions that I have read about are that you have to connect the BB to the GPS first, then connect the GPS to the headset. And yes, as a PITA you have to do this sequence each time.

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I did it with the Blue ant and the 550 as well as a iPhone. My Blueant is a couple years old so perhaps the firmware changed. The sound is all mono however. Try the Zumoforums for tips, maybe they can figure it out.
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Hi guys,

Thanks to all for the responses so far.

I will go through the different suggestions to see if I can find an answer.

With luck there will be a solution, I will post if I come up with one.

Any further hints/ideas welcome.

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I just looked at the specs and CHIA is 100% correct.
The Garmin 1390T GPT will talk to a phone to make and receive hands free calls but it has no ability to give directions via Bluetooth or even a line out port to go to an external speaker. It's effectively exactly the same as the old TomTom 710 I have in my car.
If you keep the Blue Ant and the Garmin I wouldn't bother pairing your phone with the Garmin it will be next to useless on the bike just pair the phone with the Blue Ant and you will have to watch the Garmin screen for directions.
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I just looked at the specs and CHIA is 100% correct.
The Garmin 1390T GPT will talk to a phone to make and receive hands free calls but it has no ability to give directions via Bluetooth or even a line out port to go to an external speaker. It's effectively exactly the same as the old TomTom 710 I have in my car.
If you keep the Blue Ant and the Garmin I wouldn't bother pairing your phone with the Garmin it will be next to useless on the bike just pair the phone with the Blue Ant and you will have to watch the Garmin screen for directions.
Yes, it seems that is the case.

I could have saved about $80 and bought the next model Garmin down with no BT, I can take the phone out of my pocket to dial it [gotta stop the bike either way to dial] or better still just do voice dial through the helmet comm.

Used to ride blind using my Nokia Navigator phone giving me directions through the helmet comm., looks like now I'm going to ride deaf :biggrinjester: anyone got a spare white cane and a hearing aid they don't need??
Next I will need bloody training wheels the rate things are going

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

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