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post #1 of 22 Old 10-29-2009, 07:48 AM Thread Starter
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Wait awhile before Garmin purchase..

With the news that Google will be giving away their free turn by turn direction software/service with the new Verizon Droid phones Garmin and TomTom will be in big trouble. Google has plans to expand it to all Android phones in the next few months.

Their shares have already fallen 20%, expect some steep discounts in the next few months, If this trend continues to other phone operating systems I can't see them surviving for long.

I have already used my Verizon cellphone and their VZW GPS service connected to my Cardo Scala 2 via Bluetooth and it works pretty good, of course mounting and seeing the screen in daylight is an issue but newer phone screens will be clearer and mounting systems for them will be developed.

The funny thing is, in some respects Verizon is shooting themselves in the foot with this service because they will loose all the VZW software subscription revenue they receive now, for example I'm paying ten dollars a month for it.

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The funny thing is, in some respects Verizon is shooting themselves in the foot with this service because they will loose all the VZW software subscription revenue they receive now, for example I'm paying ten dollars a month for it.
Just wait until people start going over their monthly allotment of minutes and start paying premium fees for airtime. Or using their "GPS Phone" in areas where roaming fees apply. They'll make up any lost revenues

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A standalone GPS is way better than a phone that tries to do everything. I don't think any of the GPS makers will be in trouble with Android 2.

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For now you may be right, for example I like to plan my own routes in Mapsource and then download them to my Garmin 2610 something you can't do with a cell.

But with that being said I'm pissed about spending $70 bucks for a new map every year from Garmin. Cell phone maps are updated all the time, and with free traffic updates AND weather alerts for the route you have chosen there are many advantages. Take for example the rock slide on Route 40 here in the East a Garmin or Tom Tom would point you right to it, not cell based GPS's with traffic updates.

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For now you may be right, for example I like to plan my own routes in Mapsource and then download them to my Garmin 2610 something you can't do with a cell.

But with that being said I'm pissed about spending $70 bucks for a new map every year from Garmin. Cell phone maps are updated all the time, and with free traffic updates AND weather alerts for the route you have chosen there are many advantages. Take for example the rock slide on Route 40 here in the East a Garmin or Tom Tom would point you right to it, not cell based GPS's with traffic updates.

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I'll take the $70 a year for map updates over the monthly cell fees.

I prolly will buy an Android 2 phone, but the purpose won't be for GPS use. I can see myself checking out the GPS features from time to time, but the real purpose is mobile email.

What I'd rather see is for Garmin to build an Android product. I sold my iPhone a few weeks ago. It sucks as a phone and it sucks as an iPod. It was slow as hell as a network device (3G second gen) and I don't expect the CDMA networks (Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular) to be any better.

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A standalone GPS is way better than a phone that tries to do everything. I don't think any of the GPS makers will be in trouble with Android 2.
An excellent point. Like many things in life, when an electronic device tries to do everything, it does nothing very well. I have a phone for calls, a camera for photography, a GPS for navigation, and a computer for...computing.

Go hakafugu yourself.

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I don't see these phones killing the stand-alone GPS. However, they might force Garmin, Tom Tom, etc... to be more competitive with services like the map updates and weather/traffic services. That is something to look forward to.
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An excellent poing. Like many things in life, when an electronic device tries to do everything, it does nothing very well. I have a phone for calls, a camera for photography, a GPS for navigation, and a computer for...computing.
I agree.

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Air time isn't as bad as you would think, your only charged for the actual time the route is downloaded to your phone (probably less than a minute of air time) and from then on, you only make connection again if you go off route, receive traffic/weather updates, again another minute or less.

I have not seen ANY increase in minutes when I have used the Verizon VXW software heavily for directional info on trips.

KM...your right but I don't walk around with a standalone camera, GPS, computer and a cell phone 24/7...For ME, a 5 meg cellphone camera with HD video, Cell GPS, web email, small window for web browsing is perfectly acceptable for 90% of MY day to day use.

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Doesn't Garmin already have a phone/GPS out with AT&T?

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