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post #1 of 30 Old 09-21-2009, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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Which SPOT?

After following the now completed search for Donald Masters (his body
was found obscured by brush), see:

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/show...=72221&page=21

I have a greater interest in SPOT. After reading through their web site:

http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php

I'm unsure which device is their latest and what's new, if anything. I'm
guessing the "Messenger" replaces the "Tracker" but it is not real
clear. If it does replace the Tracker, does anyone know if it corrects
some of the shortcomings talked about in the Tracker reviews at Amazon?
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The Messenger is the new device. It doesn't necessarily replace the "Tracker", as the Tracker will still be offered, I believe. Atleast for the time being.

The only real difference that I can tell between the two devices, besides the obvious reduction in size, weight, etc., is the addition of the "Custom Message" feature of the GPS Messenger model. And, I really don't see the need in that.

They had their "Free SPOT" promotion going for a while. It has since ended. Essentially, if you had purchased their two-year service ($200), plus their Tracking service ($50), you get a free SPOT device (after rebate). If you got just the two-year service, then you'd recieve a $75 rebate. Signing up for one-year service would net you a $50 rebate. Info on that here: SPOT Rebate Program. It'd be nice if they did that again.

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What is bothering you in the reviews? I've had Spot since it came out and it works as advertised, although I've never had to press the 911 button.

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Generally the negative reviews speak to unreliability of the connection to the satellite. But here is what they say positive and negative:
http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Inc-SPOT-...owViewpoints=1
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Generally the negative reviews speak to unreliability of the connection to the satellite. But here is what they say positive and negative:
http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Inc-SPOT-...owViewpoints=1
I believe most of those issues have come with people attempting to use it in areas with high density cover overhead. Almost no devices, save for much more powerful ones with minimal battery life (or the need to be hard-wired) will work in such circumstances.

If you're not going to be riding in the Amazon, other rainforests, or caves, I think the SPOT is an excellent bit of kit. Just read some of the recent posts over on ADV where people were located using the SPOT device after taking a tumble.

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Generally the negative reviews speak to unreliability of the connection to the satellite.
I ride with mine in the top box, label up. It hits the bird almost all the time. It doesn't always work under heavy tree cover, or if the beacon happens to be transmitted while you're riding under a bridge.

It also won't work if it somehow ends up in the bottom of my top box and has to transmit through all that junk. If it's label side down, I wouldn't expect it to hit the bird either.

I've had mine since a year ago last June. No complaints. It works as long as I remember to turn it on and reset it every day.

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I have the old one, but will be buying the new one as soon as available.
I like the idea of tracking and ok being separate.
Currently you cannot do both, one function has to be turned off to work the other.
I do not get an update every 10 minutes sometimes but no biggy.
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I have the old one, but will be buying the new one as soon as available.
I like the idea of tracking and ok being separate.
Currently you cannot do both, one function has to be turned off to work the other.
I do not get an update every 10 minutes sometimes but no biggy.
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There is no real need to buy the new one, it has a not useful addition, but it is smaller and lighter, maybe the batteries will last longer, who knows.

As far as the OK and Track messages go, I guess it is just how you use it. I use the OK to start and end a trip, that is all it is good for if you are using the track mode. When you are in track mode and need to send an OK, turn it off and back on, it will be at the end of the day anyway, simple.

That is just my opinion and I have travelled all around Australia, USA and Canada including Alaska etc.

Next week it is heading down to South America.

The only thing I have never seen officially is how to mount it. At the Iron Butt Rally recently I saw many SPOTs, some horizontal some vertical.

I have mine mounted vertical away from my body and connected to me with a lanyard(this last is important if you 'leave' the bike, the SPOT needs to come with you and not go over the cliff with the bike imho).

I travel Solo, so my needs are slightly different, but I know people are watching the tracks, so in a bad situation, I should be found quite soon.

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The SPOT user interface needs work, still more than the latest offering. It shouldn't be as confusing as it is to know if you are in tracking mode or transmitting an OK message. And having those be mutually exclusive is silly. Since they've just come out with an update, I don't expect another for a while. I got their newsletter saying something about an upgrade program for current owners. I'm interested in that but haven't found any further info.

I have a RAM Mount holder for my current unit, so would hope that RAM quickly makes a holder for the new unit. I love the RAM Mounts.

Travelling Strom makes a good point about the SPOT being attached to the rider and not the bike. I wonder about the horizontal vs. vertical orientation. I expect most hiker users would carry it vertically. This seems like a case for a thigh pocket on you riding pants....which I don't have.

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I wonder about the horizontal vs. vertical orientation. I expect most hiker users would carry it vertically. This seems like a case for a thigh pocket on you riding pants....which I don't have.
I don't know about the new one, but the antenna on the old one is under the Spot label. It should face up. The other thing about the new one is that it has a higher power transmitter.

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