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post #1 of 71 Old 10-13-2018, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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GPS and phone strategies

In my car, I have pretty much quit using my Garmin GPS in favour of Android auto. On the VStrom however, I want to have a GPS that works when you are out of cell range. I don't think I need the latest and greatest, or most features, but I do want bang for the buck and features that would be silly to be without. Is there a model or range (New or Old) that fits well on the new Vstrom 650 dash?
What do you depend on when far away from home?

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you can download offline maps in google maps

The only problem I have with maps is the route options that are very limited

I've tried tom tom go and it has great route options, but its road work database is very poor so often ended up on road with road work.

If I don't have a destination I just leave maps on to see traffic info and to help me get lost.

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There are good Android navigation apps. Offline maps is not one of them if you use their route suggestions much. Try Maps.Me or Locus Pro or IGO or OSMAnd+ or many others. I have a Garmin Zumo 665 on my VStrom and an Android tablet on my Versys-X 300 running several apps but usually IGO for navigation. I tested about ten different Android apps and read reviews from adv rider and other sources over about three months.

Some of the choice depends on how you want to use it. All are offline capable.

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Iíve pretty much stopped using my Garmin Zumo on my Vstrom. Iíve switched to an app called ďScenicĒ. It is specifically for motorcycles and utilizes offline maps. It has the navigation features of the Garmin, but what I really like is that I can construct a route in google maps, copy the url and then login to their web app paste the url into to space provided and the route is automatically sent to my phone. Once in my phone I donít need cell service. Check it out!


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I would not buy another Zumo. They are a ripoff at the prices they ask. A GPS should not cost more than $150-200 IMO.
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One of the major benefits with GPS is that it can also tell you what is around you. A couple of features are, where is the closest gas station, and lodging options. Unless you have a data plan and cell service, you cannot do this with a phone.. or can you? Maybe they can cache all of that too?

I travel up north a lot and cell service is spotty at best, even some of the bigger towns have no service up there, and when I see my gas has 100km range left, I start looking for stations.

Sometimes I find a station on a road parallel to the one I am driving on, would never have known it was there.

Also great for finding food.
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All of that information is available offline in the map data as POI's. I have found for North America the map vendor in Chicago IGO uses has about the most extensive POI's I have seen in my area. It is all offline. THey have every little hick gas station in the Ozarks on their maps.

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One of the major benefits with GPS is that it can also tell you what is around you. A couple of features are, where is the closest gas station, and lodging options. Unless you have a data plan and cell service, you cannot do this with a phone.. or can you? Maybe they can cache all of that too?

I travel up north a lot and cell service is spotty at best, even some of the bigger towns have no service up there, and when I see my gas has 100km range left, I start looking for stations.

Sometimes I find a station on a road parallel to the one I am driving on, would never have known it was there.

Also great for finding food.
Every blue dot is a POI. You can see gas stations, restaurants, auto repair, grocery stores, hospitals, etc. in this shot. If you touch one it has information address, phone number, name. etc..


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All of that information is available offline in the map data as POI's. I have found for North America the map vendor in Chicago IGO uses has about the most extensive POI's I have seen in my area. It is all offline. THey have every little hick gas station in the Ozarks on their maps.
Every blue dot is a POI. You can see gas stations, restaurants, auto repair, grocery stores, hospitals, etc. in this shot. If you touch one it has information address, phone number, name. etc..
That looks good then. Can you download all of NA on your phone? I suppose you only need certain states/provinces anyways right. The worst thing would be to end up someplace and discover you didn't download the map for it. Does it take up a ton of space on your phone?
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Depends on the app. IGO downloads all of North America. Map.Me and OSMAnd+ alerts you to download as it needs it or you can download it ahead of time.

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One of the major benefits with GPS is that it can also tell you what is around you. A couple of features are, where is the closest gas station, and lodging options. Unless you have a data plan and cell service, you cannot do this with a phone.. or can you? Maybe they can cache all of that too?

I travel up north a lot and cell service is spotty at best, even some of the bigger towns have no service up there, and when I see my gas has 100km range left, I start looking for stations.

Sometimes I find a station on a road parallel to the one I am driving on, would never have known it was there.

Also great for finding food.
The TomTom ap for smart phones has all the POI interests covered and speed limits etc. It is not free but the whole North America download was about $75 and didn't use very much space. Personally, I prefer the TomTom interface over the other ones. And the other benefit of using downloaded map files is that the phone is not constantly reading / caching so less heat (faster) and less battery drain.

I don't know about the various current Android phones - but iPhones starting with the 5 and up have real built in GPS (no cell needed). In fact the GPS receiver even switches over to the Russian signal if you find yourself lost in one of the Stans.

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