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post #1 of 19 Old 04-21-2018, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Too many via points?

I tried to download some routes for the upcoming Romney trip. I usually download routes into the Tire to Travel program, and then to my Garmin 660. The routes downloaded o.k. from Tire to Travel onto my GPS. When I tried to import the routes from my 660 to custom routes, an error came up- " too many via points to import". Any suggestions??? Thanks in advance.
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I use BaseCamp for routing. When a route is too long, it is easy enough to break it into multiple legs so that each leg is its own route. Then when riding and following the route, it is easy to go from on to the next. In BaseCamp cutting a route into sections is done by clicking on the Divide tool icon.
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I use BaseCamp for routing. When a route is too long, it is easy enough to break it into multiple legs so that each leg is its own route. Then when riding and following the route, it is easy to go from on to the next. In BaseCamp cutting a route into sections is done by clicking on the Divide tool icon.
Thanks Yarz1,
My 660 cannot use BaseCamp, so I must use Tire to Travel or an equivalent program. I understand that routes can be broken up into legs, so I may have to figure that out on my own. Thanks for the info.
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When I recreated the MABDR in Tyre to Travel, the total route contained 468 waypoints. When I dragged the route from Tyre over to my Garmin Nuvi 2455, the Trip Planner feature couldn't find it (although I could see the route in the Nuvi's GPX file when I looked at it on my computer). I ended up breaking the MABDR into segments; the largest segment contained 151 waypoints, and the Nuvi had no problem opening it. I didn't do any experiments to see just how many waypoints a Nuvi could read in a single segment, but I do know that 151 works.

Breaking a long ride into segments is easy on Tyre. Create the entire route, then to create the segments, open a new file for the new segment. In the new file, go to the upper left of the screen to the "Waypoints" drop down menu, and select "Add". You'll get two options: "manually" and "from file". Select "from file", and choose the file that contains your complete route. You'll get a menu that contains three choices to import: waypoints, route points or route tracks. I've always used "route points". When you click "Ok", you'll get a list of all the waypoints in the file you selected. Decide which ones you want to copy to create your new segment; you can hold the shift button down, and use your mouse to right click on the first and last point of the new segment, and the computer will highlight the first and last point and all the ones in between. Then click "Ok", and the segment you just copied will appear on the screen of your new file. Then just name the new file, something like "MABDR Segment 1". There may be other ways to do it, but that way has worked for me without fail.

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Furkot maybe?? Import then re-export?
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Thanks Yarz1,
My 660 cannot use BaseCamp, so I must use Tire to Travel or an equivalent program. I understand that routes can be broken up into legs, so I may have to figure that out on my own. Thanks for the info.
That is unlikely that your 660 does not connect to Basecamp. Anyway check the specification for the 660 to see how many waypoints it can take per route.

You can split the entire route easily in both Basecamp and Tyre, actually Tyre may be simpler.

Tyre: create a "new file"

When you open the trip file in Tyre make sure to select Waypoints

Break the trip into days or mornings and afternoons, etc. by selecting the associated waypoints. Then select "copy" from the Waypoint drop down menu, switch to the "new file" and select "paste" from the Waypoint drop down menu, save the file "as ..." and you are done.

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Will do, thanks guys. When I got my 660, I was shocked to find out that it is not compatible with basecamp. I called Garmin directly, and they confirmed this. Tyre to Travel actually works well.
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I use and love tyre and the magic number I seem to remember was 200 points into my Zumo

What I have found works best for me is choosing a "good town" to break up a ride, by that I mean it is in a good position to use as starting point for many other rides.

I save all my rides so I will build a ride to get me from A to B, then another ride B to C and another from B to D and another from B to E.

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Thanks Rolex. The route I want to download onto my Zumo 660 has 1800 waypoints. I tried to break this route into two segments. Apparently, it did not work. When I tried to import these two segments into the Zumo, the GPS froze. I may try as you suggested, and break the 1800 waypoint route into segments of 200. We shall see.
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Thanks Rolex. The route I want to download onto my Zumo 660 has 1800 waypoints. I tried to break this route into two segments. Apparently, it did not work. When I tried to import these two segments into the Zumo, the GPS froze. I may try as you suggested, and break the 1800 waypoint route into segments of 200. We shall see.
I am curious as to the distance involved in your route ? I am assuming it is a very long route over several days ?

Tbh I don't know of any GPS that will take that number of waypoints in a single route. My Zumo 590 has Basecamp on board and it only allows something like 35 or 38 waypoints in a single route. If I put in more then the Unit breaks up the routes for me and that is a nuisance.

Sometimes You will find that removing a waypoint here and there will not affect the direction of your route. When I have finished a route on Mapsource I always look back over it and check where I can remove unnecessary waypoints. If removing a point changes the route then undo the removal action. If the removal doesn't affect the route then it will maintain its direction and that is one less waypoint for the GPS unit to have to deal with.

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