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post #71 of 104 Old 07-13-2017, 09:52 PM
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Thank you! Very helpful and right on point.
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Guys, I appreciate all of the replies and much of the information as well. However, the thread is meant to be about GPS unit upgrades and not phones or history lessons about their nav capability, nor condescending remarks directed at our fellow mates here. Nobody likes to be on the receiving end of that crap. Although interesting, personally I'm set on a standalone Garmin GPS unit no matter how much preaching is done about phone usage; although I definitely have used mine on the bike several times and am fully aware of it's capabity. So far sounds like the Z590 is a worthy unit. Thanks again for the valuable input!

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I still use my Garmin 765T when I need navigation. It doesn't have lifetime maps but each year Garmin allows me to download a copy of the base map. I don't get new 3D or POIs but the roads stay somewhat updated. Not sure why but it happens in the spring through the Garmin Express thing on my PC.
That being said, I've tried OSM maps on there and in the way out there kinds of places they were less accurate or were missing more roads than the Garmin maps were. But in populated areas they seemed better.
I have used old smartphones on occasion but mine kept overheating in the sun (I live in Florida) so I always went back to my Garmin.
If it goes bad I will either get a replacement for it or, if it's something simple like the connector needing repair, I'll get it fixed.
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I still haven't decided... I just bought a new EOS 70D and a couple more lenses to replace my EOS 30D and won't be riding for another few months, so I still have time to investigate.

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I still haven't decided... I just bought a new EOS 70D and a couple more lenses to replace my EOS 30D and won't be riding for another few months, so I still have time to investigate.
Although my requirements are quite a bit different from your's (very basic, gps only) I'd be interested in what you decide...I need to upgrade my standalone also.

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a phone IS a GPS, get over it.
Macdoc, I think it's time for you to "get over it" and move on to another thread so you can denigrate someone else. Your comments are selfish and have become non-productive. This thread is about standalone GPS units like Garmin, Tom Tom, etc., which for some reason you refuse to accept. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Madoc has given a lot of useful info and links and I too find it frustrating when people choose to overpay for underpeformance with garmin hardware and then ask for advice how to continue to never move forward.

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The edification is - you are gravely misinformed.

You will not find a smart phone without a GPS chip that I'm aware of. It is basic to functionality ....it requires no network, no towers no zilch except power and open sky to see the satellite plus a map that interprets the signal as there are few of us could translate raw coordinates to useful nav data.
You seem to have a lot of knowledge on this subject. I love my Garmin as it is a stand alone unit that will function like it currently does . . . forever. There will be no additional costs . . . ever.

It would be cool if you could do a write up for the rest of us. Whether it is one sentence or many pages on how to use your cell phone like a GPS and keep costs to zero or close to it.

The biggest concern most of us have is the cost. With a standalone GPS there is no monthly charge. I cringe at the thought of my already expensive monthly cell phone plan creeping upward if I have the map on all the time and constantly reading data. Maybe I don't understand this as well as I should. This is where you come in. My new Garmin Nuvi cost like $800 or whatever. But again it is a one time cost. If it is preferred I get a second phone, is that going to cost me $200 for the phone and $50 a month for service? If so, I am already at that same $800 price point and going into the second year I start to lose money.

1) Should a person buy a second phone? What basic plan and apps would I need to get this second phone to function "just like a gps?"

2) Use a single phone for everything? Which method do you prefer?

What I like about my Garmin Nuvi is that I DON'T HAVE to updated anything; ever. Yes there are map updates but I don't have to get them. With anything software I have used in the past (computers and cell phones specifically) I have been in the situation where where I get an iOS update and then my five apps I need to navigate each need an update or the system fails. Does this make sense?

I am very tech savvy and don't like not having the knowledge you do. I guess I have always figured that my cell phone uses data all the time. Maybe you could also tell us which settings to disable so you are never using data. Turning off wi-fi is actually a bad thing right? Wifi networks are free and prevent me from using data. But to me that means I need a wifi password for each network I pass in and out of.

Again, a quick write up would be totally cool of you to do.

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My way not necessarily the best way.

Got a used Samsung s5 neo. This is an ipx7 waterproof phone and the neo allows for wet charging as the charge port is also sealed internally. $106 ebay.

You do NOT need a data plan but this is my main phone so I [email protected]/month for 12 gigs Att.

I use waze for on road routing and locus map pro for off-road and .gpx tracks with all map data downloaded.

I'm running brouter for offline routing which allows locus routing offline...ie no cell signal.

Phone is powered by bike and sits in ram x mount to handlebars in portrait orientation. Has been through 3 heavy rainstorms so far in the month I have had it

I carry an old android with locus and brouter in my bag as backup....I could not even sell this on ebay for $30 so its just for backup.

The absolute killer apps which make android the best gps system are:

Waze
Google maps
Locus maps pro
Osmand +

There are thousands of free maps even forest service blm maps too.

Total for phone and apps is under $160.

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