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What Garmin GPS (non Zumo) provides Voice to Sena 20s?

Even though a non Zumo GPS has Bluetooth, e.g., Garmin 2597, Ive read on Amazon reviews that it will not pair with Sena 20s to provide voice turn by turn directions.

Do you know which Garmin non Zumo GPS will pair over Bluetooth with the Sena 20s to provide voice turn by turn directions?

The cost for the Zumos is way to much and Id rather just used a auto version. The current 50's models I can find any reviews where it will pair with a headset like the Sena 20s.

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Bluetooth implements "stacks" and what stacks they implement determines its function - and that function is one-way as far a I know.
I don't think any GPS pairs as a source device.
What that means is that all auto GPSs I'm aware of pairs as a headset with your phone and will accept calls and put them over its speaker like a headset is expected to. But not as a source TO a headset such as a Sena.
Make sense? Think of it as a bluetooth headset that also shows maps.

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http://software.garmin.com/en-US/bluetooth.html

http://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/simpleCase.htm?caseId={04794b50-0c83-11dd-dc9c-000000000000}&kbName=garmin

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Thanks for that. The only GPS they show working with the 20s are the Zumos. SO I guess the answer is there are no automobile versions that I can pair with the Sena bluetooth headset. It must be their strategy to force one to buy the expensive Zumos.

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Thanks for that. The only GPS they show working with the 20s are the Zumos. SO I guess the answer is there are no automobile versions that I can pair with the Sena bluetooth headset. It must be their strategy to force one to buy the expensive Zumos.
I wish I could refute that but in fact it's a simple matter of implementing the proper stack so I'm not sure why they don't. Maybe because folks don't use headsets inside the car anymore when the GPS and stereo can do hands free calling.
I did however take advantage of the hulluva good buy on the Zumo 590's another member posted. While $549 isn't cheap it's a big discount and the functionality is desirable. The Zumo's are much easier to see in sunlight by all accounts. They are made to withstand the elements and have functions useful on motorcycle rides.
I can attest that auto units just don't last that long on bikes - most are resistive screens which will start to peel with exposure and worsen the glare. Plus the Zumo can be operated with gloves.
I got one of the new auto units with multitouch glass which should be same as a smartphone for visibility and durability to try but my wife snagged it as hers.

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If the garmin, or other gps device, has an external speaker port you might be in luck. Sena makes a bluetooth device that hooks audio and radar detector output to the sena headsets via bluetooth. Don't remember the name of it, but it will be on the Sena sites. Not cheap however....under $150. But that could still make a system a lot cheaper than a Zumo......
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If the garmin, or other gps device, has an external speaker port you might be in luck. Sena makes a bluetooth device that hooks audio and radar detector output to the sena headsets via bluetooth. Don't remember the name of it, but it will be on the Sena sites. Not cheap however....under $150. But that could still make a system a lot cheaper than a Zumo......
Now that you mention it I recall there were little dongles you could plug into an iPod that added Blutooth for cheap.

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If the garmin, or other gps device, has an external speaker port you might be in luck. Sena makes a bluetooth device that hooks audio and radar detector output to the sena headsets via bluetooth. Don't remember the name of it, but it will be on the Sena sites. Not cheap however....under $150. But that could still make a system a lot cheaper than a Zumo......
thanks for the tip. Well the answer for me is to continue to use an older Garmin 855 or other that has a 3.5mm audio jack for earbuds. Those can be had for $25-50 on Ebay. Ive been using one for 2 years now that way. I also use the Sena 20s for the intercom with riding partners and that approach works great. I can hear the turn by turn over earbuds as well as my partner via the helmet speakers. The same GPS has worked great for 2 years and they are so cheap I have 2 more as backups.

I was really just looking to upgrade the GPS but because Garmin doesnt provide audio jacks anymore I needed a GPS that would bluetooth pair with the SENA and Im unwilling to pay the exorbitant expense for the Zumo.

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I was really just looking to upgrade the GPS but because Garmin doesnt provide audio jacks anymore I needed a GPS that would bluetooth pair with the SENA and Im unwilling to pay the exorbitant expense for the Zumo.
Unless you are married to the Garmin user interface, newer smartphones have a genuine GPS receiver and will definitely pair with the Sena. I use the $49 TomTom app with lifetime map updates. It is available for both Android and iPhone.
Garmin also has a smartphone app for the same price. And if you have a windshield Garmin even has a Heads-Up device for another $150 https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-t...rod155059.html (*note the word discontinued) But still cool

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Unless you are married to the Garmin user interface, newer smartphones have a genuine GPS receiver and will definitely pair with the Sena. I use the $49 TomTom app with lifetime map updates. It is available for both Android and iPhone.
Garmin also has a smartphone app for the same price. And if you have a windshield Garmin even has a Heads-Up device for another $150 https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-t...rod155059.html (*note the word discontinued) But still cool
I saw the heads up unit on Groupon or TechBargains about a week ago cheap. There's another free GPS that has offline maps - they keep changing the name but I want to say Guide or Scout. You pick one map set when you get it for free. Then you can download only the maps you need. Not as functional as Google Maps in some respects such as POIs but you don't need a data connection when travelling either which can be huge
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There are actually some auto ones that work. I researched this extensively when I was prepping for a trip last year (that got cancelled the day before I was supposed to leave )

The models that were in current production at the time were a bit pricey and were marketed for big semi truck drivers. There were a couple older versions that did what you are wanting. I was watching them on ebay at the time. Let me see if I can find the information. There was actually a page on the Garmin website that showed what models could project to a bluetooth device and not just receive audio (like most current ones that pair to a phone)...
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