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post #1 of 11 Old 03-11-2016, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
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Tyre vs. MyRoute-app

Hey gang....I have seen a lot of posts with guys using Tyre as their preferred route builder like I do.

After using it exclusively to route my coast to coast run last September, I was disappointed to see that the current version has issues with Chrome, my preferred browser. It also has issues with Google Maps Java Script....not sure what that is...maybe your name on a Starbucks cup?

It has become quite slow, and will not connect to the Google Maps Walking Man images.

So, being a Tyre user, I like any of you, are being inundated by Tyre tying to swing us over to the MyRoute-app, their new cloud platform. It works with all formats including Apple and has the cool tracking program on the phone with picture and note facilities along the way, similar to the now defunct EveryTrail app.

Unfortunately, being a "frugal" old fart, I refuse to pay the subscription fee, just to be able to download the routes I plan, to my Garmin...yes...you can't do it unless you pay !

The MyRoute-app process though is lightening fast and has the same mapping abilities in various modes as does Tyre. It also opens the Google Maps street images from Walking Man into full screen mode so you can get a great 360 of the road.

BUT it is missing the neat feature on Tyre, of the bike icon and play buttons to "test run your route". I use this feature every time and fast forward to each waypoint to make sure I am not on the wrong side of the freeway. If so, you can see the bike going the other way, then correcting at the next waypoint....a lot easier than zooming in to double check.

I have been playing with it last week, and discovered a loophole that takes a little time, but free exporting !

Once you have finished your route, if you press the export tab...it takes you to a new page to take your money in Euros. Instead click the 'Save As' tab and click on .GPX.......if you have Tyre loaded on your PC, then it automatically downloads it as a Tyre.GPX file, showing on the bottom line of the screen. Right click, click open, and it will open in Tyre...plug in your GPS and click export....Ta Da !!!!

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You might want to check out Furkot as it has all the mcycle roads from various sources embedded. A bit tricky interface but worth while.

https://trips.furkot.com/ui



if you look at the green bars bottom right...they are a compilation of ride routes - I usually just use the mcycle ones.

The list on the right is a clickable description of all the routes in that section of the map with detailed info.

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My browser security won't let me load Furkot....but I'm not really looking for something else, as I love Tyre, and Myroute-app has the awesome tracking on the phone for posting new trips and images.

I use MyRoute now as it's faster, but save on Tyre.

I found a way around the exporting issue, and wanted to share with other Tyre lovers.

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Where's my file?

Planning a route home from Romney WV last night, and found a tiny link when using the Walking Man to check out roads....to 'View on Google Maps'....that allows the same full screen 360 road view, but also the string of other images at the bottom of the screen for local photos and attractions.

After saving the route to .gpx, I realized it is a downloaded file from the cloud....yes it opens immediately in Tyre, but if you don't save it again to your Tyre file, you won't find it there later....it's in your downloads file. So now, I right click, open folder, and drag it into the Tyre file from the download file before opening.

Being a Canuck, the MyRoute-app file in kilometres is fine, but when in the US, I like to see it in miles.....but I can't find a conversion option, so I changes it over in Tyre, before exporting to the Garmin. If anyone finds the conversion option , let me know.

A nice feature of planning a MyRoute-app route, is that you can access it on your phone at any time, zoom in and use various features. I also noticed that the route list shows the arrival time and distance at each waypoint, which is good for planning gas and break stops.

Another issue with MyRoute compared to Tyre, is that you cannot have multiple route tabs open on MyRoute, like you can on Tyre. This is an easy way to compare routes planned to the same location. I have a few from Wellesoro Diner to Romney, can have them all open on Tyre, and just flip between tabs to check timing, terrain and distance.

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You might want to check out Furkot as it has all the mcycle roads from various sources embedded. A bit tricky interface but worth while.

https://trips.furkot.com/ui



if you look at the green bars bottom right...they are a compilation of ride routes - I usually just use the mcycle ones.

The list on the right is a clickable description of all the routes in that section of the map with detailed info.

And extensive output choices
I am checking the site out now for the first time. I can't figure out how to get to the screen you have added above with the green bars etc. Do you have to be a member to see that?

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I noticed the same issue with Chrome. I just started mapping my routes in Tyre, instead.

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I got into Furkot on the Samsung Galaxy, but Kaspersky still does not allow access on Chrome on the desktop....it crosses out the https saying it is not secure and compromises access to passwords etc.

Oh well....happy with the Tyre fix. Looking forward to tracking my routes to Romney and uploading pics as we go. I plan on tracking all my summer routes through Muskoka this year, then sharing them on MyRoute-app.

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Have you tried IE for PC? That's what I am using (IE11) and I don't have any problems you describe. But my Tire application tends to crash every now and then without obvious reason or any prior warning. Frequent saving is the only cure.

Once I am done with the route I import them into Basecamp and check every waypoint to make sure that they are really on the road. If not my car Garmin (it supports Route mode) does not recognize that I have reached the waypoint even if it is only a little off the road it does not jump to the next waypoint but instead wants me to go back to find the errant waypoint. If that happens while riding I have to re-start the route, try to find the next waypoint in the long list of 20 or 30 or 40 and have Garmin start routing again to that point. Not the best situation while moving. Don't you have similar issues when just planning with tire?
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Not at all Hartmut. If the waypoint is off the main route slightly, I can see it coming up on the Garmin390, and I just drive right by, knowing it's incorrect.....the Gamin just continues on within a couples of miles. The odd time it needs to be re-started.

That's why I like to use the bike play mode to check all waypoints....I go to Preferences, and set the speed to fast, and keep clicking the FF button after every waypoint. You can very quickly see the glitches and reverse directions.

In MyRoute-app, I use my mouse and very quickly swipe across the screen to "run the route" on satellite mode. It's much faster than Tyre, as it's a cloud format rather than a stored file.

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