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post #1 of 16 Old 07-28-2015, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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Recent model GPS recommendations?

Okay so now that I have installed (and like) the adventuretech GPS mount, I am second guessing whether or not to use my iphone 6+ or get a GPS. I have read many threads here about each.

I love the iphone (its huge) but am thinking, here in lower NY/CT (cold and rainy at times and lots of potential sticky fingers) that i may not want to potentially forget my fancy iphone+ on the bike. And the phone is such a distraction in the first place that i want it packed away. Which means, I am in market for a GPS. Yes the spending just never ends with this bike! Its as bad as a boat. A hole in the pavement you throw money in.

I am not doing any super long trips. Just lots of multi-hour day trips from home with the occasional overnighter. 800-900$ for a top garmin seems ludicrous. Or is it really amazing and worth it? I don't mind paying for top quality. But expensive does not always mean better.

So any suggestions (recent experiences) for a GPS to get? I do like the idea of trip planning. I did that for my last overnighter using google maps and printed the map. So being able to pre-plan a trip on my PC and then get it on the GPS sounds awesome. And although I don't have a headset yet (for music) i really think that is on my horizon too. So being able to play some (not loud) music would be great. Not sure if that has anything to do with the GPS or not. And finally, I don't really like voice instructions with a GPS. I prefer the occasional looking at the map if i need to. That is unless you can load Snoop Dogs voice in the GPS

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I am also considering getting a GPS, as I am often finding myself lost after taking alternate routes that look interesting.
Electronics seem to be obsolete/outdated as soon as you get them because of little features that get put into a new model. A lot of those features I will probably never use.
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Tank bag with local map is the cheapest option
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iPhone 4s used fo $100 or less gives you a lot of flexibility with the many apps available ( that don't need a cell plan )

I use my iphone 5 but carry a 4 as a spare.
There are loads of waterproof solutions starting with a zip lock bag.

GPS standalone are a dying segment. You lock into one manufacturer and they are expensive so you still risk a valuable item

You already know iOS. Stick with it.
$50 gets you TomTom North America with its unique Winding Roads which from your riding description will provide loads of surprises and fun.

The interface is clunky but it works and the Winding Roads feature makes up for it
Buy it on one device - use it on others - regular easy updates and you've got your tunes or Audible books as a bonus .

MotionXGPS is tradition GPS that works without cell connection.

There are others ...CoPilot - don't spend money on dated tech is my advice. Used iphones are cheap and durable

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Electronics seem to be obsolete/outdated as soon as you get them because of little features that get put into a new model.
This exactly why you want to divorce the software from the device.


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I actually have an unused iPhone 4. But there is no plan with it anymore. So how would a phone without a data plan function as a GPS on the go? Doesn't it need a cellular signal to use GPS functionality? Or am I missing something?

Locally maps dont work for me. Its pretty congested here. I tried it. A large area map doesn't show enough road detail. Zoomed in maps require flipping pages alot. I want digital! I stopped using my Hagstroms years ago. Thats right HagSTROM.

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I'm in the MotionX camp, I have MotionX GPS.:| $1.99 to buy, then $5.99 so you can download and use custom map sources.

I'm like you, I have a spare iPhone 5 left over from an upgrade.:| It doesn't have a plan associated with it, so it's only good for 911 calls (I think).:| However, Wi-Fi, GPS, and Bluetooth still work.:| There is a bit of a learning curve with MotionX.:| You want to set up your maps and download the needed segments while you are on your home wi-fi, and that can take a LONG time.:| If you want to download a large area, download it in segments totaling less than 100,000 tiles, then grab the next section.:| Don't worry about overlap, it will only download the tiles for that section if you haven't yet downloaded them.:| You can play with upper and lower zoom levels to tailor how close or far back you want to look, the the closer you get (more detailed), the more tiles you will have to download. :|

There is one niggle I'm still trying to figure out, and I'll admit that I haven't played with it too much in non-cell mode.:| When using the phone in non-cell service mode, it seems that some movement is needed before it starts tracking on the map, then it's fine.:| Before then, it just shows the "No Data" tiles.:| It's a little frustrating, because I want to look at the downloaded maps for an area 250 miles away, but it's being goofy on what it shows.:| I need to drive a little to see if that kicks it into gear.:| However, I used it on my regular phone (with cell service) last year to do the COBDR, and it did fine.

Another thing to point out is that MotionX GPS doesn't have turn-by-turn voice instructions.:| I heard another one of their products does have that feature, but I use Waze on my main phone for that, because I only need it for street use.

I'm working hard to have this work out.

Caveat::| I'm not riding in any critical areas (yet), and have my main phone, ancient GPS, and paper map as backups.

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http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/a/1116...-for-Under-150

http://tlcfaq.com/main/2013/08/motion-x-custom-maps/

http://www.bemental.me/blog/2015/2/1...th-motionx-gps



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GPS works on a phone that does not have wifi connection or a cellular data plan?! No friggin way. I will charge my old phone and report back!

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Well thank you sir. A little googlin and voila....

How to use the iPhone 4 as a GPS mapping device for backpacking

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iPhone 4s used fo $100 or less gives you a lot of flexibility with the many apps available ( that don't need a cell plan )

I use my iphone 5 but carry a 4 as a spare.
There are loads of waterproof solutions starting with a zip lock bag.

GPS standalone are a dying segment. You lock into one manufacturer and they are expensive so you still risk a valuable item

You already know iOS. Stick with it.
$50 gets you TomTom North America with its unique Winding Roads which from your riding description will provide loads of surprises and fun.

The interface is clunky but it works and the Winding Roads feature makes up for it
Buy it on one device - use it on others - regular easy updates and you've got your tunes or Audible books as a bonus .

MotionXGPS is tradition GPS that works without cell connection.

There are others ...CoPilot - don't spend money on dated tech is my advice. Used iphones are cheap and durable



This exactly why you want to divorce the software from the device.
Can you read the screen of your I phone in bright sunshine? To me that is the biggest challenge to find a device, be it GPS or phone that is clearly readable regardless of conditions. The ziplock bag sounds great for rain but in real life is dangerous because it is rather reflective and the touchscreen works only so so through it.
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Can you read the screen of your I phone in bright sunshine? To me that is the biggest challenge to find a device, be it GPS or phone that is clearly readable regardless of conditions. The ziplock bag sounds great for rain but in real life is dangerous because it is rather reflective and the touchscreen works only so so through it.
25,000 km with an iphone says your fears are unwarranted. 10,000 in June alone.
I set my X mount so I can tilt the screen away a bit from sun position

This was very flat glary day at 11,000' on Beartooth Pass with the iPhone 5



The iPhone 4 was not as bright as the 5 and this cover was annoying for reflection but could be moved and was designed for touch screen



In rain of course its brighter and you are really not doing much with the screen by way of using it while riding

Most times the phone just sits in the X mount directly accessible.
Was nice tonight ....complicated ride to a AirBnD was effortless all the while listening to a superb Audible book.

I can also use voice nav if I choose tho rarely do. Some mount their nav device too far away for easy use and reading.
Volume is easily accessible with the side buttons,


I like the way the TomTom app shows you exactly what you see - signage etc at junctions



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