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post #1 of 11 Old 05-17-2014, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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Garmin vs. TomTom

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I need to get a GPS for my Wee... and, as with everyone else, I'm awed by the price of the "motorcycle" versions on the units. Over the years, I've owned all the big brands for my cars, and Garmin is by far the best of all of them, and the TomTom I had was not too bad. I do want to stick to a motorcycle version for it's brightness, ruggedness, water proofness, and the winding route/roads options of the newer one. For now I'll just mount it to the bars, or however I can given the stock pieces. Eventually I'd like it up high and center... I did find the vendor on here that sells the mount like that so I can get when I'm ready.

So, a few questions to those with experience:
  • Is the Zumo 390 really "worth" the extra $300 over the Rider? Seems like they have mostly the same features. The Rider looks a bulkier and more "rugged", but to looks don't matter to much to me, and having this speaker on the Garmin is not an extra. Even in my car I always have it off.
  • The Rider seems is up to version 5 (released last year as far as I can tell). When I go to Amazon (for example), it doesn't actually say "V5" or anything like that. Any idea how they code the part number to indicate version 5? Example: "1GD0.052.00". I just want to make sure I don't get an older model.

    Or, possibly, is the $300 difference I'm finding because the Rider unit is NOT the v5?
  • Wiring on the Wee... Can someone give me pointers on where I would hook it up to be hot with the key? I don't have an owners manual yet to look myself.

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-17-2014, 08:34 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOMTOM-GO-92...item2c81f9eaab

I use TomTom 920. It does everything and more that a Zumo does. Sure it is not MC specific but I don't need it to be. I route the audio to my Sena headset and don't bother looking at the screen when on the move. Ziploc and elastic take care of the waterproof issue, Ram mount to the handle bar, and connected to a cigarette outlet wired to a constant on source. The one weakness is the audio out Jack but if you "stabilize" the cable by clipping it between the unit and the Ram mount, you will be ok. The Tt920 can be picked up in eBay for around $100. Comes with Euro maps. I use Tyre to create routes on my computer. Dead easy and Google map based. I have not drank the Garmin Kool Aid and don't think I ever will as long as there is cheaper (better?) alternatives. Oh, and I have over 100k on the TT and the vibrations don't seem to be a problem but I don't take my ST of road too much.
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I had a couple Tom-Tom's both failed due to vibration. Magellan died in a few drops of water.
I'm using a Garmin 2455 in a Ram Aqua box to keep it dry. Full time traffic warnings, lifetime maps. Cheap on close out. Does all that I need but I'm not into way points and mapping.
I like the altimeter and the POI's. It has good graphics too.
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... Or, possibly, is the $300 difference I'm finding because the Rider unit is NOT the v5?...
I ordered the tomtom rider from amazon for $333 and it was the latest version. Not as nice as the Zumo but it works for me.

I posted comments on the unit: https://www.stromtrooper.com/2142993-post5.html

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I ordered the tomtom rider from amazon for $333 and it was the latest version. Not as nice as the Zumo but it works for me.

I posted comments on the unit: https://www.stromtrooper.com/2142993-post5.html
I did read your thread Donmac. It was one of the best, honest write-ups I found on the Rider. Thanks for that posting.
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Nuvi 2455 lmt

I got it couple months ago costco.com for $99 free shipping. I had a Nuvi 1350LMT and got the 2455 because I wanted to do real routes with the Garmin app Basecamp. I had NW U.S. Topo 24k in a MicroSD card on the 1350 and it instantly came up on the 2455 when MSD card installed. I also use Maps and Earth but in Basecamp, after plugging 2455 into cmptr, I can see the topo map. I think the 2455 is not as bright in daylight as the 1350. I too use zip lock bag and rubber band for rain. I think the 2455 is all I need and I'd get a Zumo only if the sunlight readable claims for it are correct, and I have never seen a Zumo on a bike so I'd want to first. I don't want to use the Bluetooth connectivity and don't have a smart ph but if I did that would change the equation quite a lot. However, it's a lot of $ to use Bluetooth to voice ops the Garmin/smart ph.
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I've bought about 15 Garmins in the past 20 years, 1 TT, 2 Delormes, and 1 Magellan. Good reason for the numbers, always have to have the latest and greatest. No regrets except for the non-Garmins.

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I will be getting the latest TomTom rider in the very near future, considering the price and all that is does......how can I not give it a try? Garmin are big bullies and they purposely will not make a GPS that will do everything that buyers ask for, that is why they have so many models to choose from "MONEY".

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I've gone ahead and ordered the Rider. I could have had it by tomorrow if I ordered it at the start of the weekend because Amazon had stock then. Now they don't, so it's out 2-4 weeks before I'll get it.

Was out exploring the countryside within an hour of my place this weekend, and I hate not having a GPS. Not so much for where I'm going (which this weekend was nowhere in particular), but how to get to find something once I'm close or scan ahead for upcoming side-roads to see if any look interestingly not straight.

I have an older Magellan right now, the only thing it's really good for is a kickstand plate I think... so I'm not going to bother trying to mount and wire it. It's already on Kijiji for someone to take off my hands for cheap.
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$$ Garmin

I agree to a point with Big B about Garmin and $$. The TT Rider lists for $400 and does not have an sd card slot and means no Topo maps. My G 2455 cost $99, has the card slot and so I can use the Garmin NW Topo 24K maps and the nat'l street map data set with Basecamp, a free Garmin app. I agree with Big B, if he so thinks, my G 2455 should not cost 10% of a top-of the-line Zumo. However, in the Nuvi line, due to competition, and everyman price points, G has lots of models, segmenting the market, and eveyman can buy cheap a Nuvi that will suit his needs. The N 2455 is more capable that the Rider for 25% of cost of the Rider, but however, the Rider says it is sunlight readable and it has color selection so it may use an LED full array RGB backlit display, which the Zumo certainly doesn't. Garmin, like Rolls Royce, rarely changes the high end Zumo because it doesn't have to as some will pay the $. So at the Nuvi level, Garmin has no peer on a feature/price basis, certainly not the Rider. And, Garmin has the world's finest tech support: I called a few times to get help with the 2455 and Basecamp and had to call again after I did the route because I could not find it in the device. Now, I am not arguing buying Tom Tom is a protest vote, at least not totally, not completely, and certainly not entirely because even though the G 2455 is more capable and I could buy four of the them for the cost of one Rider, the Rider is, they say, sunlight readable. Considering an LED RGB 4.3 in. display could never cost 4 times a CCFL LCD, I have to think the Rider's margin is high as hell, though not an outright rip off, which I might say about the Nuvi/Zumo price points. Finally for $89 from Wally there is a refurbished G Nuvi 1390LMT that is sunlight readable, supposedly, and it does routes with Basecamp. But hey, I get it. No matter what, I'll never buy a GM car: they "converted" gas engines to diesels in the late 70's and it's a clear case of never forget, never forgive.
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