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post #1 of 4 Old 05-29-2007, 09:55 PM
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Along with the rest of you folks, I too am trying to find the "perfect" solution for navigating; on road AND off road. I just came back from an 882 mile ride this past Mem. Day weekend. I stayed within the boundaries of my fair state of Maine. Originally, I had planned to ride the Lincoln Pond Road up to Eustis, (see map 28 of the Delorme, Maine Gazetteer). I bailed out of that plan when I ended up 6 miles off course on another logging road. I realized I seriously needed a GPS system to help me pick the right roads back in the woods. I substituted another route for my holiday pleasure.

What I have been thinking of is using a nice, large screen PDA running Windows Mobile 5 AND a GPS receiver (such as Delorme's BT-20), plugged into it. In essence, (I hope......), I can run BOTH "city-highway" maps AND Topo map software for offroad riding.

Any thoughts or input on this? I need to be able to run both Topo and Street maps for the riding I do.

BTW it normally takes about 1 1/2 hours to get from Millinocket, Maine to Mount Desert Island. Yesterday, it took me 11 hours..... That's because I did it via Madawaska, the Northern most city in Maine. This bike is sooooooo Coooooooolllllllll !!!!!!! I can ride two-up, solo, paved roads or dirt roads and the machine doesn't flinch at anything I throw at it. I love the gas mileage too!!! About 55 - 58 mpg.
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post #2 of 4 Old 05-29-2007, 10:17 PM
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EDIT: Take a look at this link for clarification: http://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELi...08#GPSFeatures
post #3 of 4 Old 05-29-2007, 10:42 PM
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I'm probably one of the few who use a PDA for navigation on a motorcycle. It has it's advantages and disadvantages over an all-in-one (AIO). Aside from typical PDA functionality, I think you've touched on the former: A wide variety of choice in the kind of software you can use. I currently have 3 different navigation programs, each with it's own strengths and weaknesses. I also have a couple of 'moving map' programs where I can load topos etc., and I have a professional mapping application that I use for work related stuff.

Another advantage is that you can pick and choose hardware: My current PDA is an Airis (same as a MIO and available only through a single U.S. distributor) that has a built-in GPS. It has served me quite well since I bought it in January. Before that was an HP Ipaq combined w/ a bluetooth GPS receiver. Fine for in-car, but too complicated on a motorcycle, and the Ipaq was simply a piece of crap.

I keep my Airis in a Ram-mount 'Aqua-box' (large) that happens to be a perfect fit. Keeps it good and dry, but visibility is a real problem, especially on a sunny day. This is the biggest drawback to my setup that I have found.

As for navigation software, I have:

- OnCourse Navigator 5: which is a re-branded version of Europe's Navigon software. This is no longer available as a PDA application in the U.S. Navigon will be entering the U.S. market directly, but I think only as an AIO device.

- OnCourse Navigator 6: which is a re-branded version of Igo, used by MIO in their AIO units. This was just released a few months ago, and has some great navigation algorithms, but I find the interface frustratingly complex and missing some really key features like custom POI loading and a limited route planning tool. This is what I have been using most however.

- CoPilot Live 6 from ALK: By all rights, this should be the application of choice. It has some great features and just about all the bells and whistles one could ask for, except for one really big problem: the map data is hopelessly flawed and almost useless in my area! I have been (im)patiently waiting for an upgrade to CP7 which was supposed to have been released this month (May 07). If they at least improve the maps, it should be the way to go.

Right now, TomTom is probably the best bet in the PDA navigation market unless ALK can get their act together. I would have gone with them to begin with except there were some issues with the TomTom software I didn't like at the time, which I think have since been corrected.

Unfortunately, this is a small market segment which is being led primarily by GPS-enabled smart-phones. Still, I think it is perfect for in-car use, and can be good on a motorcycle if properly protected. Not perfect, and certainly not as easy and handy as the Zumo, but doable.

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post #4 of 4 Old 05-30-2007, 06:09 PM
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Thank you VERY much for all of your insight and input!!! Exactly the kind of response I was looking for!

I am still rolling this stuff around in my brain..............before I make my decision.

again, Thanks!

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