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post #1 of 45 Old 04-19-2007, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
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Search for the grail of helmet speakers

I ride with ear plugs (Home Depot, 20db), but I like to listen to music when I ride. My audio setup includes an ampli-rider that can really push out some power. With the wind and plugs, I have to crank the volume to hear the audio. I've tried the $20 HelmetAudio style speakers and they blow...as in blow out with the volume maxed. There are other more expensive helment speakers, but are they strong enough? http://www.bikeintercom.com/products/x1.htm

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Like you I tried the "el Cheapo" helmet speakers and pretty much came to the same conclusion. I finally dug a set of old but decent sounding Sony (Pre-China assembly) headphones. After removing all of the "mount on your head" plastic crapola I did a minor amount of soldering to get the correct 3.5 Audio female lead connected and installed the bare speakers in my helmet. About an hours worth of time invested in the disassembly (of the headset) and the install and I'm a happy camper.

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I use some custom made in-ear headphones that were made from molds of my ear. They block noise and the headphones inside of them are the same make as the ones musicians use as stage monitors. I can roll at a much lower volume, saving what little is left of my hearing. I got them at the int'l motorcycle show a few years ago. At 300ish bucks, they were pricey, but worth it. The price has come down a bit now... http://www.earinc.com/p2-iplugz.php

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I've used speakers in 3 different helmets...HJC, Nolan, & Scorpion. The trick to wearing ear plugs at the same time is to get the speaker right on the ear canal and the full-face Scorpion is giving me grief. Right now I'm fighting with a set of stripped down Sony headphone speakers. Ear plugs are cheap enough, maybe I can modify a set that works to let more sound in. Hmmm...

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I'm happy with my Etymotics ER6i ear buds, along with the Amplirider....hooked up to my Garmin 2730! XM radio, almost ZERO wind noise at highway speed, and I can still hear traffic.

Super sound quality!

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Ok so since I'm like, a musician, and I play every night with in-ear monitors, I think I can comment with a pretty decent amount of experience on this!

IMO - you are going to have volume and/or blown speaker issues if you double up with earplugs, then speakers. It's like wearing a wetsuit so you can take a scalding hot shower. Essentially, you're blocking over 50% of the sound coming to your ears, then cranking up the speakers to hear them over the plugs. You need a lot of power, and usually, higher wattage speakers than what is going to fit properly inside a helmet.

I use M-Audio IE-10 In Ear monitors - both for stage and riding. They are earphones that fit up into your canal, and have a bunch of interchageable tips, from expanding foam (what I use) to silicon flanged tips. I find that the expanding foam ones act as earplugs for the helmet by sealing my ear canal, and I can keep the volume on the music reasonable since I'm filtering out the wind noise/roar.

The best part is, they are only $100 at Guitar Center or online.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/produ...es-?sku=600077

These things rock - comfy, they stay in your ears and the interchangeable tips/sleeves allow you to fit the plug into your ear without having custom molds made. And they sound GREAT. You can plug them right into an amp or directly into an MP3/Sat radio unit and get enough power to hear them well.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do!! I know I tried about 5 different systems before I settled on these.

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I'm starting to notice there are two types of inner-ear speakers. The problem I had with the Etymotics was the tubes would collapse when I moved my jaw a certain way...basically, they only worked if I held my mouth open. That's why I was trying to get ear plugs + speakers to work. The M-Audio is different and looks like a little ball that doesn't go into the ear canal. That might work.

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Monkeygrass,

Those look great! I'm gonna order 'em up and give Momma the ER6i's. Have you compared sound quality to the Etymotic/Shure products? The replaceable wires are quite the concept, as they frequently get pulled/tugged on.

Did you order yet Bobo?

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They are identical in driver setup/specs and quality to the Shure E2's.

I use them every night - my music and my income depend on them. After going thru everything from Sennheiser studio cans, to Sony hi-quality buds, to Shure and Westone in-ears, I've found these to be the best I've ever used. I'm sure a $400 set of Shure E5's would sound better, but the price point/features and quality of these are unmatched, IMO.

And yes, the replaceable lead wires are CRUCIAL. Most earbuds go bad when the wire that goes into the earpiece bends/snaps and they are garbage. Not these!!!

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Did you order yet Bobo?
I found a set for about $80 on Ebay, so I'm giving it a shot.

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