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post #1 of 25 Old 03-26-2013, 02:49 AM Thread Starter
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Heidenau K60 first impressions

Only 120km's on them - so really early - but that 120 k's was 50k's to the nearest dirt road, riding up and down it, and back home.

Initially - just getting our of town - was nervous, not because they slid at all, but my old tires were pretty squared off so the initial tip in from the new ones was severe in comparison.

On dirt - which was fresh graded dirt - where new gravel hadn't been spread yet, so mostly dry hard packed clay. Quite a nice surface for anything but road tires.

Really hard to pick that it was dirt from the feel - and I prefered the K60's front and rear to TKC-80 front -any old tire at the back combo I've used in the past - no need to make an effort to keep the rear of the bike lined up with the front - given rear grip I could just let the rear hang out there because the grip was there to bring it back again.
The K60's worked better with the suspension on dirt as well - I litterally couldn't feel potholes and lumps in the road. Even when I got air off some humps the bike just landed again with no fuss at all.

The trip home was better than on the way out, the bike handles a bit differently than with Scorpion Trails - the rear end tends to hang out more, but handling and corner grip was fine.

Negatives
- some road noise at town speeds - drops away above 60kph.
- the vibrations from the front at low speed (i.e. coming to a stop at lights) feel like the ABS is kicking in. Since I usually back off the brakes when that happens - it's going to take some getting used to. Not a big deal, TKC-80's feel worse.

Second hand reports from the tire shop was that the riders of other beasts using these (KTM's, GS's) were pretty happy - they wear near as well as a road tire (Unlike TKC-80's) and are 'good' on and off road until end of life.

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post #2 of 25 Old 03-26-2013, 03:41 AM
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Pete, do some measurements of thread depth and let us know how they wear as time progress, i have been thinking a set of K60 scouts to try out when my current Trail Attack finishes.

Although over 10K on TA, they look less than half worn , so it could take a little while - Scorpion, Anakee 2 and TW only ever lasted around 10k for me.

How much did u pay for yours and where?

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Front new ~7.5mm, rear ~10mm.

Sorry, tread gaps are so wide that my calipers don't bridge them properly, so there's a reasonable room for error there.

I managed around 14k's out of the last Scorpions, but the front was probably a bit far gone when I changed them .

I don't think you'll get that much out of the K60's despite the tread depth, and I can't see them worth using unless you plan to ride at least some dirt roads during their life ?.

I paid $480 fitted for the pair. Miami tires, Gold Coast. FWIW - he's out of rears until next month, one front left. If you want them, it pays to arrange it weeks in advance - he seems to have a stable source, but they are popular.

They aren't a cheap tire, but at that they'll be better than a TKC-80 (spooned on and off at need) if I get 8k's from the pair, I'll be over the moon if I get 12.

I've been using the Scorps because they are bearable off road while being good on. What I'm hoping for with the K60's is better off road and I'll tolerate a drop in road performance and life for that. Off road performance is at least a yes, at least for the mostly dry dirt roads I go down in a planned manner .

(And I need to slow down on seal anyway - the L2 is just too fast now, it'll get expensive soon if I don't.)

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i move back close to where i work - so MC will be more of a joy ride - looking to a bit more unsealed stuff - TA is way too nervous on any unpaved road - have a 6 day trip planned for late may - what tyres i get will determined how much unsealed stuff i do

price seem ok

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I wanted to get the get a Heidenau but ended up with a Tourance.
A friend with a 1200GS has the K60's and his still look good with 7K miles on them.
He loves the way the work on the road and is looking forward to doing some serious dirt time with them.
I figure with a lighter bike like the Wee the tires may last even longer. The K60's definitely look the ADV profile...if you're profiling!
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I put a set on my 03 vstrom 1000 last summer and am very happy with the performance on all road surfaces. However after only 3500 miles the rear is toast so I swapped it out with a K-76 and well see how that works with the K-60 front which is going well after about 200 miles. I'm sure the low mileage of my rear is due to riding style, my own weight ( 300 ) and the rough NC back roads I ride. But I was hoping to get a lot more after all the rave revues of long life that I read.

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Wet performance is excellent. I was a bit nervous initially, but once confidence built, no issues.

A lot better FEEL than TKC-80's in the wet at least - I never had a TKC-80 front slide out on me, but they certainly felt like they wanted to in the wet. No drama's with the K60's.

The ugly.

Braking down through 20kph is 'fun' with the vibrations at that speed.
Alternator whine type sound starts at 55kph, dissapears at 65kph. Not bad - but noticeable. The compensation, 60kph is my legal commute speed, don't need to look at the speedo now, just optimize for maximum whine

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...... 60kph is my legal commute speed, don't need to look at the speedo now, just optimize for maximum whine

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that's funny!:mrgreen:

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Have about 5500 on a rear K60 (Vee). Looks good for a couple more thou unless wear accelerates dramatically.

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I have been using these K60s for a while now when I can get them. Over the past 12 months of travel I have clocked up 53,000kms

My first set lasted 25,000km and still had tread but as I was heading into uncharted territory I replaced them in Germany.

The second set, I still have the front tyre on, it is badly scalloped but will get me home, only another 1,000km at this stage,

The rear was severely worn on the ripio in Mongolia and I lost quite a lot of tread spinning along the corrugations. That tyre was replaced in Bangkok, it managed only 20,000km this time.

I now have an Anakee II as it was that or a TKC 80 and the 80 melts, so we shall see what happens as far as distance on this one.

The k60 is my tyre of choice from now on for ever The cost back home is a bit higher I know, but if I don't have to replace it as often, the cost factor is negligible.

The performance has been brilliant in the twisties, the wet and the dirt. I don't do mud but these are a road tyre anyway pretty much.

When the tyres square off, they can cause a howl, when I did Stelvio Pass, they could hear me coming and it wasn't all my howls of laughter either

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