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post #1 of 21 Old 09-19-2012, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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New Racetech Suspension .. Fork Brace Still Advisable?

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With Sasquatch out of business I sen't my front and rear Suspension to Racetech for a complete Rebuild. Heavier Springs, new Bushings, Emulator etc.

Question: With all that done and the suspension winging it's way here .. would anybody still recommend a Forkbrace or is it not really advantageous given the new "heavier" Forks and Shock??

Any advice gleefully accepted.

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I think that the purpose of the fork brace is to reduce twisting and flexing of the fork tubes. Your new, heavier springs, won't have any effect on the thickness of the fork tube walls. So yes, I think that it solves a different problem.

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Thanks, I was sort of leaning that way.

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With Sasquatch out of business..
The shop is closed up? I thought I read on another forum someone getting ready to send their bike's forks/shock in for work.

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The shop is closed up? I thought I read on another forum someone getting ready to send their bike's forks/shock in for work.
It would be a nice thing to stop that action.

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With Sasquatch out of business I sen't my front and rear Suspension to Racetech for a complete Rebuild. Heavier Springs, new Bushings, Emulator etc.

Question: With all that done and the suspension winging it's way here .. would anybody still recommend a Forkbrace or is it not really advantageous given the new "heavier" Forks and Shock??

Any advice gleefully accepted.

Hope you will report back on your experience with Racetech, this is what I am thinking of doing to my '11 as well.
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Hope you will report back on your experience with Racetech, this is what I am thinking of doing to my '11 as well.
Will do. Given schedule etc., it will probably Tuesday before it arrives and Wednesday to get on. Hopefully with the weekend coming up then I can get it tuned to me and give it a bit of a ride. Put a new (15,625 miles approx off a wreck) in the Wee also so it will be interesting to see how she runs now that she has new suspension and new engine.

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racetech spring rate info

Just saw your post, would you mind sharing what spring rates they plan on using? I will be curious as to how it come out.

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Hope you will report back on your experience with Racetech, this is what I am thinking of doing to my '11 as well.
Just finally, picked up my (newly) race-tech suspension-ed WeeStrom today. I know they put 1.00 springs in front with the Racetech Emulator and the new rear end. Have to say that I am really, really impressed with the change. It's funny how you don't realize how badly your old suspension has deteriorated over time until it is replaced.

First and most obvious change is the lack of front-end dive when doing a hard stop with heavy front brake application. Wow. All of a sudden the front just "sort of settles" rather than me fighting to keep from diving over the bars.

Second biggest change is how much more compliant and sure footed the front end feels going over speed bumps, pot holes and dead squirrels (etc) is now. Instead of feeling like a 1967 Cadillac with bad shocks on a Chris Craft jumping wakes and going "bump, ditty bump, bump, up-down, shake and rock" it sort of just goes bump and settles right back in with out any harshness or indecisiveness (for lack of a better phrase).

Third biggest change is simply how much better and less squirrelly the rear is now. Again, it is simply compliant, consistent and much smoother going over the same imperfections listed above. And while considerably firmer it is much less "reactive" to problems.

Forth and final biggest change is that the rear and front suspension feel like they operate in harmony and as one system rather then weak front springs occasionally working together with a rear shock. For you dancers out there the best anology I can give you is Swing. When you and your partner are both in-tune and moving together in harmony to the music. Rather than separately... but occasionally as one.

In summary, if funds are tight my personal is that the single (by far) biggest bang for the buck were the new fork springs and emulator. The rear shock (at least at 65,000 odd miles) while definitely a very measurable improvement (particularly over bad pavement, shoulders and curbs) over the original is something that could wait for another time.

Done together (though) the difference is wonderful and co-ordinates well.

That last statement is based on a friend's 2005 Wee that I have ridden quite a bit. He changed the front first (racetech and no emulator) about 3,000 miles ago and just changed the rear last week exactly the same as mine.. His bike has about 75,000 miles on it. In both cases front was the biggest improvement. Combined front and rear is a coordinated success.

YMMV, particularly if you still have very few miles on you bike. Again, if that is the case and I wanted to spend my money in the most efficient way possible I would re-spring the front forks and not worry about putting the emulator in. While the emulator does make a difference, it is in my opinion, much more subtle. The Rear can wait if necessary.

I apologize for this somewhat long winded essay; but there were several messages both on and off board asking for a review. So I tried to be complete. I hope it helps some of you in the decision making process.

BTW. I am 6'0 and 195-200 lbs. Vast majority of riding is one-up.

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Just finally, picked up my (newly) race-tech suspension-ed WeeStrom today. I know they put 1.00 springs in front with the Racetech Emulator and the new rear end.

BTW. I am 6'0 and 195-200 lbs. Vast majority of riding is one-up.
interesting.

i was going to post this in my own thread, but yours seems really relevant to my situation so i hope you don't mind me asking for advice here.

i just picked up my wee last week. the PO weighed 230 and had 0.95 racetech springs in the front, ohlin shocks in the rear.

I weigh 197 (same as you). PO suggested I step down to 0.85 racetech springs, but it sounds like racetech put in 1.00 for you.

a) wth should i do?
b) any idea on whether those 30 lbs are significant enough that i should even fuss with tuning the suspension?

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