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post #1 of 12 Old 04-26-2019, 08:54 PM Thread Starter
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Shinko 804/805 vs. 705

About to change out the stock BW tires after ~9200 miles. Rear is completely square from commuting, and front is cupping. I've had 705's on a 06 Wee, and other than the odd tip in issue, they were fine. I'll be using them mainly for commuting, but i do head to an OHV and run fire roads and some gravel roads and off road single/doubletrack here and there. the stock BW's obviously limited my fun in those situations. The 705's on my wee were better... but i'm really trying to see if i can go 804/805 and have my cake and eat it too. :-)

The two big questions:
1: Any difference in vibration between the two tires? I do a slab commute, and would prefer not to be shaken apart.

2: any difference in wear on them? i saw notes for some people that handling is awesome on the 804/805 but that the rear wore out in 3k miles. others are saying the rear runs to 6-7k no problem. what are your experiences so far?

Oh, and i'm not looking at other tires. There may be better stuff out there, but i'm generally a cheapskate on my daily driver tires and i'm not gonna change. it's not like what i put on my track bike.

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Already a big thread about these tires, for the record I love them......much better all around than 705. Moving this to the suspension and tire section, checkout the many threads there as well.
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1. No idea, never ran the 705s. I am currently running 804/805 combo after replacing the stock TWs. Tip in is aggressive as you mentioned. Handling is great on pavement, no complaints, even at 80mph on the freeway. I commute 30 miles every day with them. I do notice slight knobby tire vibe from the front tire at very slow stop and go speeds... Other than that I can't tell they're knobbies.

2. I'll let you know in 5-10k miles

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Only "potentially" need a fender raise kit for the 12-16 650's, prior year 650 had more clearance. I did install one of Ricks kits on my 15, and I am really glad I did for several reasons.
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yeah, sorry, forgot to mention this is a '15 Vee.
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I bought my bike used and it already had 705s.

I went from 705s to 805s three-and-a-half years ago, and just mounted my third rear. I don't recall any difference in vibrations. My front 705 has a slow-speed wobble from cupping, and I always thought the front 805 handled grooves in the road better.

I got 7700 miles on my first read 805 and 9000 out of the second. I changed the first because I had a trip coming up, and I waited on the second because it was winter and I wasn't making any trips other than 15 minute commutes. It was down to the wear bars, and I don't commute in the rain.

I got 12000 out of my first front 804, flipping it at about 6000. I'm at 5100 on my second and not ready to flip.

They stick good for me, but I don't push it.

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After several sets of 705's, which I liked and rode up to AK, Dempster, Dalton, Interstates for hours at 90, whatever. I now have an 804 front with a waning 705 rear. When it's done I'll get an 805 and likely never own another 705. The 804/5 are just better. I don't track mileage, I don't care, so I can't speak to that. When they're done, I ride em a little more and then get another. If you're OHV bound, you'll like em more. As far as vibration goes: I used to notice it on the 705 front, I don't notice it on the 804.
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I bought my bike used and it already had 705s.

I went from 705s to 805s three-and-a-half years ago, and just mounted my third rear. I don't recall any difference in vibrations. My front 705 has a slow-speed wobble from cupping, and I always thought the front 805 handled grooves in the road better.

I got 7700 miles on my first read 805 and 9000 out of the second. I changed the first because I had a trip coming up, and I waited on the second because it was winter and I wasn't making any trips other than 15 minute commutes. It was down to the wear bars, and I don't commute in the rain.

I got 12000 out of my first front 804, flipping it at about 6000. I'm at 5100 on my second and not ready to flip.

They stick good for me, but I don't push it.
Flip the front? Isn't it rotational?

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Flip the front? Isn't it rotational?
I don't remember where I got that idea. I think the reason is to utilize the sharper edge that develops after a certain amount of usage. YMMV

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The weird thing about the 705's is the tread patterns are reversed front to rear so it looks like one of the tires are installed incorrectly.
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