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post #1 of 30 Old 09-07-2018, 11:31 AM Thread Starter
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Tire recommendation for Vstrom 650

My Shinko 705 tires were getting very worn down, and as those of you who also use these tires know, they get incredibly howl'y at around 40-50mph when they wear down. Also, the knobs were cupping and wearing unevenly along the leading edge of the knob (when braking). While good on the dirt roads, they do wear in a way that not only makes the handling get a bit weird, but the noise is unbearable on pavement.

Time for a change - I ended up getting some very gently used Metzeler Tourance NEXT, from a guy on the Stromtrooper classifieds. I'd read some mixed reviews on these tires online, so I'm glad I got to try these tires without plunking down full-price! That said, I absolutely LOVE these tires, for they completely transformed how my vstrom handles in the corners. They feel as if you're riding an invisible berm, and once you set it at an angle, it's there - no need to micro adjust trajectory thru a corner as I found myself doing with the 705's. They do have a bit of an initial low-speed 'turn-in' effect, but once you get used to this peculiarity, it's no issue and actually feels a bit like a steering assit which I kinda like now. Smooth, quiet, and super grippy in the corners - also great in the wet, which I found out during many rainy commutes this summer.

The biggest surprise of all is how well they do on the same dirt/gravel roads I ride. The sure-footedness they exhibit on the pavement, remains once you get onto the dirt/gravel. I dare say, they perform better than the 705's, just from how they feel thru the handlebar. All in all, when these finally wear out (they wear like iron too), I'm definitely getting another pair.

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I rather like them! I am not. sure how many I have used...probably 10 or 20 of the Next and 50 or the regular Tourance.


I'm happy with the tourance's in all the conditions you have mentioned including unpaved/gravel roads. I've never used the Shinko's so nice to know the Next compares well to them on gravel.

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Thanxs for the comparison on the tires.Need new tires next season and was looking at the Shinko tires again.Think I'll give the Metzeler tires a try.I ride gravel and paved roads mostly very occasionally a dirt road if the pavement ends.
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I rather like them! I am not. sure how many I have used...probably 10 or 20 of the Next and 50 or the regular Tourance.


I'm happy with the tourance's in all the conditions you have mentioned including unpaved/gravel roads. I've never used the Shinko's so nice to know the Next compares well to them on gravel.

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Bummer that you've never used them. I was going to ask you if you had any experience with them in the cold. I put on a new set of TKC70's last October and the front is already toast (5K miles). I thought about putting on a cheap Shinko 705 front to finish out the rear, but with the cold season headed my way I wondered how well the Shinko rubber works in the cold...

Anyone else tried the Shinko 705's in the cold?

Is there a specific rating for motorcycle tires that is similar to "all-season" used for car tires? I figured that the high performance requirement of MC tires would tend to push them towards the softer "summer only" type compounds. I don't want my front tire to turn into a hockey puck at 40 F!
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Bummer that you've never used them. I was going to ask you if you had any experience with them in the cold. I put on a new set of TKC70's last October and the front is already toast (5K miles). I thought about putting on a cheap Shinko 705 front to finish out the rear, but with the cold season headed my way I wondered how well the Shinko rubber works in the cold...

Anyone else tried the Shinko 705's in the cold?

Is there a specific rating for motorcycle tires that is similar to "all-season" used for car tires? I figured that the high performance requirement of MC tires would tend to push them towards the softer "summer only" type compounds. I don't want my front tire to turn into a hockey puck at 40 F!
I'm impressed at how much traction the Tourances have at freezing or below (as long as the roads are dry.) I put Anlas Winter tires on my bike last winter. And while I never rode them in actual snow, they didn't seem any better at single digit f temperatures than the Tourances were.

(I can tell you the Tourances suck when there is a layer of ice near freezing point on the road!!!! [damhik])

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I am seeing quite a bit of a price difference. I was all excited to go from Trail Wing to the 705 until I read this. I really like the 705 over the TW OEM. I guess I will find out on cupping/wear.

V-Tom must buy the Tourance's wholesale. He should become a re-seller. 65 tires altogether!?! That is like 280000 miles (1.5 tires every 6000 miles) plus flats? V-Tom would never ride on a plugged/patched tire right? kfh000
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I am seeing quite a bit of a price difference. I was all excited to go from Trail Wing to the 705 until I read this. I really like the 705 over the TW OEM. I guess I will find out on cupping/wear.

V-Tom must buy the Tourance's wholesale. He should become a re-seller. 65 tires altogether!?! That is like 280000 miles (1.5 tires every 6000 miles) plus flats? V-Tom would never ride on a plugged/patched tire right? kfh000
I plug flats without hesitation. I don't know how many for sure but over 10 and probably close to 15 over the years. Just did one a few weeks ago on my wife's Triumph on the second day of our Newfoundland Labrador Riding trip.

I though I might have might have exaggerated a bit on the number of tires so I decided to count:

I have put 16 tires on my DL1000. Two were Anlas Winter tires. The rest Tourance "Next". Some were done earlier than needed as the beginning of trips. At least one other had multiple puncture so was replaced early. So that's 14 Tourance's.

I put 10 on my 2102 DL650, all were Tourances, the last few were "Next"

I put 17 tires on my 2006 DL650, all were Tourances. I don't think any were "Next" (When did the Next come out?)

So yeah I exaggerated a bit. Total tires was 43, 41 of them were Tourances.

Total mileage on the three Stroms adds up to 489,524 km or 304,185 miles of Strom riding.

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Throw some earplugs in for the tire noise

I plug tires. Have since I started riding motorcycles and driving cars. Its rare for a motorcycle tire to come off the rear of any of my bikes without at least one plug in it.
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I hate to hijack the thread (but here goes...)

My new-to-me 2014 DL650A with 5000 miles still has the OEM Bridgestone Trailwing tires and I need to replace them soon. Despite having a lot of tread-life remaining they are +5 years old and handle like crap. I have been poking around this and other sites looking for advice on what to buy. Based on my research, I am considering the following sport-touring tires;

  • Metzler RoadTec01
  • Pirelli Angel GT
  • Bridgestone Battlax T31

I got back into riding about 5 years ago but my only tire experience has been with the Michelin Pilot Road 3 and 4 which are really grippy tires (that I loved) but are expensive and don't last (~6-7K miles and that was pushing it). My use case is strictly street riding, no off-road, rarely dirt or gravel roads (e.g. to get to a campsite or some such), no rain (California!) so mostly twisties and some slabbing. Naturally, I'd like a tire that is not expensive (~cough~ Michelin ~cough~) will run a while (~10K miles) before needing replacement. Is this too much to ask in a moto tire? I am leaning toward the Angel GT but open to suggestions and comments, especially from riders who have used any of these tires. Thank you!

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Bummer that you've never used them. I was going to ask you if you had any experience with them in the cold. I put on a new set of TKC70's last October and the front is already toast (5K miles). I thought about putting on a cheap Shinko 705 front to finish out the rear, but with the cold season headed my way I wondered how well the Shinko rubber works in the cold...

Anyone else tried the Shinko 705's in the cold?

Is there a specific rating for motorcycle tires that is similar to "all-season" used for car tires? I figured that the high performance requirement of MC tires would tend to push them towards the softer "summer only" type compounds. I don't want my front tire to turn into a hockey puck at 40 F!
i have used the 705's in cold tempatures
they preform just fine
i live in the big city (ny) and commute "almost year round"
only been through one winter on the 705 on the strom, but have had a few sets on my dr as well
good luck
for the right price i might try a set of the ones mentioned above
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