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post #1 of 29 Old 01-31-2018, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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Let's talk Michelin

So i'm a Michelin fanboy, i always wished i could fit some pilot power 3 tires on my bike. The pilot road line lacked performance and was way too expensive in my opinion.
Depending on the selling price of the 5s, i'm seriously thinking about getting back to michelin, the technology looks good

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I haven't studied the new Road 5, but would assume it would be just a little better version of the Pilot Road 4, being its successor. I have the PR4 on the Gixxus and they are quite popular with that crowd, as well as other even more sport-oriented bikes. It seems to be excellent for most everything (on pavement only) - highway, spirited twisty riding, rain, as well as the occasional track day. Actually better for the street than the Pilot Power tire, since the PP has to get quite heated up to unleash all of its performance capabilities. Unless you go off-road, I can't imagine where you would need more performance than a PR4 on a Strom. JMHO.

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I ran the whole Pilot series on my BMW except 5, and pilot 3and 4 trail on my Wee. No chicken strips on either never had one slip. I spend quite a bit of time in the PNW never a problem in the Rain Mileage has been decent. When the Bridgestone are gone I will put on Anakee 3 or Pilot Road 5 . I do not do off road on the DL1000... I am sure other people have there favorites....

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Actually better for the street than the Pilot Power tire, since the PP has to get quite heated up to unleash all of its performance capabilities. Unless you go off-road, I can't imagine where you would need more performance than a PR4 on a Strom. JMHO.
Admittedly, I have never tried the road, i went from the PP1 straight to the PP3. They were so sticky, i loved them.

People told me the old road line had a harder compound to last a couple more thousand kms, i can't think it would be better than a real sport tire?

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When I got new tires on the GSXS recently, it was between the Pilot Power sport tire, and Pilot Road sport tourer. (My son has PP2CT on his Gixxer and I really like those tires - it was like a whole new bike...) I'm not one to push tires to the limit, but generally what several folks said who had used different tires (and of course, a lot of this is subjective) is that the Pilot Power will be stickier than the Pilot Road once it gets warmed up. But most people riding on the street will never push it hard enough to heat it up that much. The thinking goes then that it won't (might not?) be any stickier than the Pilot Road since the PR is designed for maximum performance at a lower temperature. The way I ride, I probably wouldn't notice the additional performance of the PP. The PR also has harder compounds and will last longer, as well as doing better in the wet. I guess it all comes down to how and where you ride and what your expectations are.

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I have PR4s on my 650 with the front at 13000km and the rear at 12000km. The front looks likely to do 20000km while the rear Road version looks likely to do 14-15000km despite the moulded little Michelin man on the edges having been worn away. Edge grip levels still feel as good as new and wet grip still excellent.

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I've run set after set of Anakee 3s. It would take a lot for me to switch to any other tire. I get over 18,000 miles per set, and the rears seem to last just as long as the fronts. The foamy interior surface makes it very easy to get them onto the rim.
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I've run set after set of Anakee 3s. It would take a lot for me to switch to any other tire. I get over 18,000 miles per set, and the rears seem to last just as long as the fronts. The foamy interior surface makes it very easy to get them onto the rim.
Mind if I ask what kind of riding? Speed? Load?

I have yet to see more than 10000km out of any moto tire (mostly hwy mikes with luggage).

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Mind if I ask what kind of riding? Speed? Load?

I have yet to see more than 10000km out of any moto tire (mostly hwy mikes with luggage).

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Speed is generally 75mph (120km/h) or lower. I live in the city and commute out, so there's lots of stop-and-go. I'm not gentle but I don't spin the tire either. A few times a year I'll go on longer trips which include both long stretches of highway fully loaded, and spirited riding on backroads. In total miles traveled, I estimate 70% highway 30% city.

As far as load, it varies. I have a 49L topcase that's always mounted. It usually has my bag and laptop in it, maybe 10 pounds of stuff on average. On longer trips, quite a bit more in the topcase plus soft bags which I load with clothing and nuts. I don't weigh much, but I take a passenger once in a while.

One thing I do a little differently from most is run both tires at 42psi. I've run them just a bit lower and they don't last nearly as long. There doesn't seem to be a penalty in traction.
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