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post #1 of 20 Old 09-21-2017, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
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Question New-to-me Wee, best "95/5" tires?

I just got a 2011 650. The current tires don't need replacing yet, but I want to start researching a bit now so I'm ready when the time comes.

I want to go on some unpaved roads, but it won't be a lot of my riding at first (hence "95/5"). But I would like my next tires to at least be a little forgiving off pavement, 'cause all my riding to date has been paved only.

From what reading I've done, it looks like the most popular/"best" not-super-expensive options would be Shinko 705 or Avon TrailRider (AV53/54). Pros/cons/thoughts?

For reference, I'm in Los Angeles, so don't have to worry much about rain. I'm the heavier sort (260 lb.), but not doing any big tours or carrying any big loads just yet.

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For what you seek, the 705 is a good choice, imo. I have around 70k miles on a number of sets, and have not found a need to try something else.
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Avons and Shinkos are discussed under "Tire Recommendations" in this subsection of the forum.
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Shop online as well as at dealer AND independent shops local to you. The dealer and indie shop might attempt to steer you away from the Shinkos. But if they do give you a price, make sure it is out the door.

When I bought my 705s, I called a few indie shops in my area for a price to install the tires with wheels off the bike. The shop owner I chose told me how crappy Shinkos are and gave me a brief Chen Sheng history. Meh, I didn't care, just mount the damn tires. When I left, he quoted me a lower price for the tires than I got them online. So next time I'll shop him, too, despite his anti-Shinko stance.

BTW, he tried to steer me to a major tire, Dunlop, I think, claiming they were such a better tire, blah, blah, blah. Do your research, take what a dealer will say with a grain of salt, and ride till the wheels go square.
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It really depends on what off paved surface you are riding 5% of the time. Groomed stone roads, mud, sand, water?? If riding groomed stone fire break roads any tire even 100% street tire will work okay. If riding in mud/sand you'll need an open lug pattern so it either self cleans (mud) or moves product (sand).


I run Battalax T30's and only very rarely find myself on groomed fire break roads and move right along with no issues. I personally would not take the DL on anything more aggressive than the fire break roads as it is heavy and I have other lighter bikes that work so much better.
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It really depends on what off paved surface you are riding 5% of the time. Groomed stone roads, mud, sand, water?? If riding groomed stone fire break roads any tire even 100% street tire will work okay. If riding in mud/sand you'll need an open lug pattern so it either self cleans (mud) or moves product (sand).
Right now, I suspect far more likely groomed stone or gravel roads, not mud or sand. That might change the more I explore, but right now it's a safe bet. Thanks!

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Mitas E-07

I find the standard tyres when purchased to be quite "iffy" on anything except dry bitumen. Even gravel driveways can be "interesting".

I fitted Mitas E-07s to my 2012 DL650 after the originals wore down - that was just over 20 000 km (12 000 miles). I found the Mitas E-07s to have excellent grip on dry sealed roads, good grip on formed roads (dirt, clay, gravel) and good grip on sand. They had a life of 25 000 km (about 15 000 miles).

The only places I found them lacking was on wet tram (streetcar) tracks and on roadworks where smooth clay had been watered (where i was riding on a wing and a prayer as I found it to be worse than wet glass).

I haven't tried others to compare as I was very satisfied. Currently I'm trying to wear out the originals on my 2015 DL650.

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I also have Mitas E-07's and I would caution you away from 90/10 tyres even if you rarely go off seal (there are no 95/5's).

The fact is that the V-Strom is a relatively top heavy bike and a novice might find the tendency of 90/10 tyres to move about on loose surfaces more than a little disconcerting. Better to consider something "acceptable" on seal that also gives you confidence when on gravel and dirt. After all, that is where a novice really needs the extra stability while learning how to coax a heavy bike across a loose surface.

I'd recommend that you spend some time looking back through the various impressions and write-ups on this forum. Look for people whose riding is similar to your own and see what they ended up happy with.

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I really like the battlewings, they are OEM on the 1000. Pilot road 4's are good as well but they are really pricey.
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I really like the battlewings, they are OEM on the 1000. Pilot road 4's are good as well but they are really pricey.
The current front tire is a Battlewing. Thanks, I'll check 'em out.

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