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post #1 of 35 Old 05-22-2017, 11:12 AM Thread Starter
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Looking at 50/50 tires. Guidance?

Recently a buddy picked up a KLR 650 so I am looking to ride with him off road. Obviously I know his KLR is a better off road machine but I want to try to hold my own. In addition, my son has a 50 and wants to start trail riding. Here is how my bike will be used: commuting 3 to 5 days out of the week (30 miles a day at hwy speeds)and I will be trail riding with him on the weekends. I live in NE Florida so most of the off road terrain is sand/dirt/mud. There are no rocks to contend with. What tires have you had experience with that you would recommend for my application

Metzler Karoo 3
Continental TKC80
Heidenau K60
Mitas E-07
Shinko 804/805 Big Blocks

I tend to buy my tires locally rather than online since my dealer will install the tires for free if you buy it from them. However they don't carry The Heidenau or the Mitas. They are available online though. Again, I am hoping to hear from personal experience if possible

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Go with the Shinko 804/805 for your riding applications..........IMHO.

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Go with the Shinko 804/805 for your riding applications..........IMHO.
Any particular reason why you like them for my application?

Also would there be any issues with the tire blocks hitting my front fender?

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E7s will give you wet traction and okay off pavement ..what I run on my KLR650 in tropical Australia.
K60s better mileage but might be slippy on wet pavement ...not such a big issue with ABS
I switched from the 606s on the KLR and tho I like the K60s on my Wee I decided the extra mileage was not justified in Australia.

This is a heavy bike for mud and sand and no 50/50 tire will help a whole lot tho will be way more stable on dirt and gravel and tracking our of rain gutters etc.

Dunlop 606s would be better but not sure how much life you will get with your commuting - they will give you far better control in mud and sand.
https://www.revzilla.com/product/dun...al-sport-tires

You could probably snag a more dirt oriented bike pretty cheaply .. lighter, better clearance etc....even a KLR ...

https://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/...R650-120038740
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You could probably snag a more dirt oriented bike pretty cheaply .. lighter, better clearance etc....even a KLR ...
That's the ultimate goal. However I don't have the disposable income for a second bike at this time. The $200-$300 for some 50/50 tires is a lot more doable than $2000-$3000 for a whole bike at the moment

I rode Osceola National Forest on some Bridgestone Trail Wings and did OK till I hit some mud, in which case the front end just washed out. Where I will be riding will be very similar to there. To get an idea of the terrain, please check out this thread of that ride https://www.stromtrooper.com/general-...h-my-pain.html

Hopefully that helps explain the terrain I will be tackling

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Any particular reason why you like them for my application?

Also would there be any issues with the tire blocks hitting my front fender?
A bit better for sand/silt than the E07 or K60.....

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I can only reference the Heidenau K-60.

It was the only tire available to me last year as I was crossing Canada from Vancouver Island. I needed tires by the time I made Winnipeg and a call out to numerous shops failed to find any tires in stock that fit the bike. Reaching out to a BMW dealer he had one set of tires that did fit and they were in stock. I had no choice so I got over the sticker shock and put them on. They were no harder to install than any other tire I have done.
I proceeded on my trip east to Newfoundland and with a fully loaded bike I started doing side trips up dirt mining roads, into fields to seek out views, dirt roads to unknown places etc. I absolutely trust these tires, dry or wet. With nothing on the bike aka 'naked', it corners so well my boots are always touching the pavement. Tar snakes have disappeared! I have not done true 'sand' in depth so cannot comment there but they were great in wet gravel/dirt but a bit slick in wet clay. They have 13,000km's on them now and they have worn to where they have erased those small cutouts on the outer tread. Probably another 13k left to go where I will be replacing them with the same.
My only negative comment is that the front tire does hum but 'oh well'














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I added a tooth on the rear sprocket (48T) and got this Avon AV85 TrekRider on the wheel (spocket weights don't work since the spokes are in a reverse orientation on the 650XT - weights fall to the wheel hub). I'll get the wheel on the bike tomorrow. The Avon AV54 TrailRider sitting there only lasted 6500 miles (fun-filled) and wouldn't pass the state vehicle safety inspection due by end of June.

Raining this week. Full report later.

BTW: #1, the Avon AV53 TrailRider front is still in good condition, so I'll continue to use it. #2, I used balancing beads in the AV53 and you can see how it polished the tire's inside. #3, the center section of the Avon AV53 is very flexible and gave a good ride although shorter than I had hoped. There was very little variation in tread depth down the middle, so I'm assuming that the balancing beads either corrected the imbalance or did no harm to an already balanced tire.
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Hard to really go wrong with any of the tires the OP listed and probably and advantages/disadvantages will be marginal and/or even out when split between your two applications. That being said, I'd do one of 2 things... go with the Mitas E07's or blow your buddy's mind and buy a brand new KLR.
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Rather than spending $300 on a set of tires for the V1, I'd suggest saving up for a little bit and spending $1000 on a 90's DR350.
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