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post #1 of 23 Old 04-06-2017, 01:16 PM Thread Starter
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Trying to get all parts in place. Based on others opinions, decided on the 412 rubber valve stem replacements. Finding online but they are listed as Designed for rim holes 11.5 (.453 dia)

1) Thought we need 11.3?

Napa has them but listed at .88 with .453 dia rim hole. Tire Valve Stems Snap-In Valve PART #
NTH 90412

2) So this is the recommended shorty?

3) Already have dyna-beads installed. Better to recover and reuse or go with ride-on for balancing?

4) 06 Wee, 35,000, do I need to do any wheel bearing replacement or clean n lube? No off road almost zero wet

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post #2 of 23 Old 04-06-2017, 09:32 PM
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Sorry but I use the local Power Sports store and they charge $25 bucks for a tire change and occasionally change my valve stem.
My bike is at 90K miles. When I take the tire off for replacement I give the bearings a spin and if it doesn't feel gritty, I ignore it again.
The dealer puts balance weights on and I never give it a thought.
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1 & 2) Yes, that Napa valve stem is correct. Any 412 valve stem will work fine. They're made of rubber, so the exact measurements given in the specs are sometimes a little imprecise.

You can also use a 413 valve stem -- these are much easier to find almost anywhere, even Walmart. The only difference is that they're 1/4" longer. 412 stems make it slightly easier to check tire pressure and look a little nicer.

3) No idea. I static balance. The beads are sort of a pain in the ass that go everywhere, IMHO, but some people like 'em. I hear you can recover them by using a piece of pantyhose over the nozzle of a shop vac and slurping them up.

4) You replace wheel bearings when they need to be replaced. It's impossible to go by mileage. What kills motorcycle wheel bearings is abuse and contamination. Motorcycle wheel bearings are basically standard sealed metric industrial bearings -- they're engineered for very high speeds and loads in machinery. In motorcycles, they're very lightly loaded, but they can be vulnerable to water and dirt.

Stick your finger into the bearing and spin the inner part around. If it feels loose or like it's got sand in it, replace. A little bit notchy is normal -- you should be able to turn it easily with your finger. I recommend keeping a set of wheel bearings in your garage so you're ready to replace them when the time comes. At around 30,000 miles, your odds are good they're OK unless you've been bombing through mud bogs and rivers and blasting the wheel hubs with a pressure washer.
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I recover balance beads after I dismount the tire from the wheel. I cut the side out of a plastic bottle leaving part of the bottom intact. Its curved so it contours to the tire interior. Once off the wheel, stand the tire upright and scoop out the beads.
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1) Got the Shinko's. Way different tread pattern, should I leave the battle wing in front with Shinko in the rear, does the differing treads matter

2) Tires have red dots, no yellow, what does that mean for install?

Did check the dates, 46 month 2016 rear 5th month 2017 front, always check date, once had "new" auto tires almost 4 years old, no way to verify how they were stored
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I don't balance my motorcycle tires any more. Can't feel the difference.
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1) Got the Shinko's. Way different tread pattern, should I leave the battle wing in front with Shinko in the rear, does the differing treads matter

2) Tires have red dots, no yellow, what does that mean for install?

Did check the dates, 46 month 2016 rear 5th month 2017 front, always check date, once had "new" auto tires almost 4 years old, no way to verify how they were stored
I have that combination on my bike right now; a 705 in the back and a BW501 in front. The differing treads don't make any difference in how it handles. The only thing that's noticeable is that the rear tire is a little more buzzy than the BW502. When the BW501 wears out, I'll put a Shinko on, but only because I like the Shinkos and they're cheap.

I'm getting more and more inclined to Kelly2012's point of view about balancing motorcycle tires. I do it out of habit because I've always done it, but I'm not sure it's even necessary. The only reason I keep doing it is I'd hate to skip it and find out the the tire needed it, and have to take the damn tire off again. Even when they are perfectly balanced, how long does the balance even last, once the rubber starts to wear off? It would be an interesting experiment to take a balanced tire off a bike when it had lost half its tread, and see if it was actually still balanced.

I might be mistaken, but I think the yellow dot is the heavy spot of the tire, and the red dot indicates the highest point of the tire.

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I'll always replace any ball bearings that feel notchy in any way. Somewhere on here are the industrial bearing numbers that fit in correctly. They'll be pre-lubed with long life grease and have resilient seals on both sides to keep dirt & water out and the grease in. The -2RS suffix on the bearing indicates the two seals. (Shielded bearings are different and not sealed.)

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So red dot only, what do I do with that?

Can't find any info from Shinko, random stuff online red dot equals the light spot?
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Well, you can do what I did and just line the red dot up with the valve stem when you mount it. I wouldn't get too worried about stuff like this. You'll find others on the forum who don't balance motorcycle tires at all, regardless of red dots and yellow dots. My new Shinko's been on the bike for about 150 miles now, and it's running just fine with the red dot being used as a balancing reference.

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