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post #1 of 31 Old 03-29-2017, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
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Flat Repair in the Garage

I have 8700 miles on the factory Bridgestone Trailwings and will be replacing them with Mitas E07's this weekend, so I thought I would give my cheapo flat repair kit a test run.

Kit and #8 wood screw.
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post #2 of 31 Old 03-29-2017, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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Plug Inserted

Elapsed time ~10 minutes.

With the bike on the center stand engine off, I drove the screw into my worn but serviceable tire using a screw gun.

I laid out the tools and read the destructions.

1) remove screw.

2) immediately insert ream - forcefully.

3) because the wheel wanted to turn, I put the bike in 1st gear.

4) forcefully dragged the ream back and forth several times to evenly scuff the edges of the hole. Left ream in to minimize air loss.

5) took "needle" and coated it with rubber cement per instructions.

6) removed ream and quickly inserted needle with cement. Sliding it in and out a few times and reinserted ream to minimize leaking.

7) threaded plug half way through needle.

8) removed ream and finagled needle with plug into tire (forcefully)

9) removed needle
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2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
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Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
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Refill tire with CO2

Even though I tried to keep some air in the tire it was completely flat by the time I finished.

Using a Genuine Innovations bicycle tire inflator ($15) and 8 Crosman CO2 cartridges (~55 cents each when you buy a box of 40 from Walmart), I refilled the tire.

Each cartridge increased the pressure of the tire by exactly 5psi. (Didn't make sense to me.)

It was about 80 degrees when I filled the tire. I don't know how much difference freezing temperatures would have had on the volume of CO2 gas.

Eight cartridges later 40 psi.
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2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
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Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
Sit and Fly Seat Net

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Trim plug

Trimmed the plug approximately flush ...

Total time ~30 minutes from driving the screw to trimming the plug.
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2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
First farkle - Motech center stand
Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
Sit and Fly Seat Net

So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:27

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Cool test. Let us know how long it holds air! It would be a good test for you to ride it and at least verify if it held for up to 2 hours or 100 miles. This would lend some confidence that this repair would at least last until the next town or maybe a bike shop.


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8 mile ride

So after posting the photos and description of the process, I went back out, checked the pressure (40 minutes later), and went for a ride.

The pressure was 37 psi, so I took an 8 mile ride mostly from 30 to 45 mph. Top speed of 50. Included a mountain bike trail with numerous roots, and a very bumpy gravel road with numerous roots.

When I got home, the tire pressure was 40 psi again.

Tomorrow is supposed to storm, so I'll check the tire pressure tomorrow AM and PM, the top the tire up and commute on Friday.

Picture of plug after 8 mile ride.
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2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
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Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
Sit and Fly Seat Net

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Cool test. Let us know how long it holds air! It would be a good test for you to ride it and at least verify if it held for up to 2 hours or 100 miles. This would lend some confidence that this repair would at least last until the next town or maybe a bike shop.


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Good idea. I'll probably ride ~50 miles on Friday. 30 minutes. Spend the day at work and 30 minutes back. Maybe throw in a few gravel roads or a mountain bike trail.

2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
First farkle - Motech center stand
Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
Sit and Fly Seat Net

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I rode probably 10-15 miles on a flattening tire to a spot I knew was level for parking. Better than stopping anywhere along Hwy2 going to Wrightwood.
A rock from the chipseal had done in my tired tire. The ream and worms did a decent job and the air pump worked well enough. I made it to Wrightwood and a gas station ans pumped up the tire properly and rode home.
I was amazed that the tire didn't try to leave the rim but I slowed down a lot. Bike never felt squirrely just odd.

It's good to know the equipment you carry will accomplish the task at hand and get you rolling agin.
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I rode probably 10-15 miles on a flattening tire to a spot I knew was level for parking. Better than stopping anywhere along Hwy2 going to Wrightwood.
A rock from the chipseal had done in my tired tire. The ream and worms did a decent job and the air pump worked well enough. I made it to Wrightwood and a gas station ans pumped up the tire properly and rode home.
I was amazed that the tire didn't try to leave the rim but I slowed down a lot. Bike never felt squirrely just odd.

It's good to know the equipment you carry will accomplish the task at hand and get you rolling agin.
Thanks. How long did you ride before replacing the tire?

I've never read how well a plug works or lasts in a bike, and I had never plugged a bike tire either, so I wanted to learn in the comfort of a warm, dry, well lit garage. I saw the kit in a tourist trap when I was on a trip last year and bought it until I could find a better one. The bike pump is what I carry on my bicycle for flat repair, so I thought I would try it too.

I know this isn't rocket science, but thought I would share. Maybe someone has suggestions for a better way, or a bad story that I could learn from.

2015 DL650XT w/ factory Suzuki/Motech side cases and engine guard.
First farkle - Motech center stand
Suzuki handguards
Augustus Wind Deflectors
Fat, foamy grips
Givi AirFlow windscreen
Go-Cruise throttle lock
JD Astar 1260 lumen LED tail light bulb
Suzuki (SW Motech) Top Case
Hyde Racing skid plate
Adventuretech kickstand foot, fork brace, fender raising kit, and peg lowering kit.
Zita 26mm up / 20mm back risers
Sit and Fly Seat Net

So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Genesis 1:27
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I have had very good success/luck with these types of tire repair over the years. Not above plugging a nearly new tire and running it till it is gone. I have removed the tires and put a patch on the inside on a couple occasions after plugging it to get by for a while, but have not done that lately. I can handle the flaming about running plugged tires on a bike, so have at it!

Reeming the hole is very important. I have the CO2 canisters as well as the pump with me. The CO2 is quite convenient, but it takes several if tire is very low.

One problem I have run into is the rubber cement you are supposed to use on regular tire plugs like you see in the posts above. About any you buy at Auto stores or Walmarts are this type. The rubber cement is makes all the difference in sealing and even makes it easier to insert. That is fine if your cement tube is fresh and never opened, but after a couple years in a hot pannier or very shortly after opening the cement dries up.

I have been using another type for a while. These look something like the standard type, but are made of different stuff and do NOT require or even recommend the rubber cement! I have seen these inside a tire after removing it and they do seem to be a permanent repair compared to the other type. I have them in two of our cars that don't have spare tires, and in the road kits I have with the bikes. Link: Nealy tire repair
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