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post #1 of 42 Old 10-08-2016, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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Prior to 14,000 miles ago, I have used two TrailWings and two BattleWings on the front of my Wee. All four of those tires have lasted about 13,000 miles. So I tried something different, a Shinko 705 TrailMaster tire. I have to commend Shinko. The TrailMaster never slipped on wet or dry roads. It was very reassuring to ride with that tire on the front, but boy did it howl. When it was new, it would howl between 43 & 51 mph. After it cupped badly, as shown below, it would howl so loudly at highway speeds (55-75 mph), I could barely hear my wife through my Scala G9x helmet headset, plus depending on the road surface the 705 front TrailMaster could howl at speeds as low as 25 mph. Despite the sure-footedness of the Shinko 60/40 tire, I am so happy to have replaced it with another 110/80R-19 BattleWing BW501 tire. Now my Wee is running quietly and smoothly again.


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Interesting since the Shinko's work well for a lot of us. No odd wear patterns and providing good traction.
Is it possible the tire got mounted backwards?
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Interesting since the Shinko's work well for a lot of us. No odd wear patterns and providing good traction.
Is it possible the tire got mounted backwards?
The tire was mounted and balanced correctly. I do not know if the cupping has anything to do with the kind of roads I ride on, or how many tight curves I take, but besides the noise, the rough vibrations felt at low speeds as bumpiness and at higher speeds as vibration through the handlebars was off-putting.

What experiences do others have? No cupping? How long do others running 705's last?

I did only have a Shinko tire on the front. I still had a 150/70R-17 BattleWing BW502 on the back. Perhaps the combination of the Shinko 60/40 tire on the front and the BW 90/10 tire on the back is not a good one.

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The fronts seem to last 12-13K miles. The rears 6-8K . I haven't had any cupping like that on a Shinko.
Depending on the trips, some tires wore on the edges and others sets got worn in the middle, long miles on the Interstate.
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Have about 9k miles on a shinko 705 front (just broke in the second rear). It's got a little low speed rumble that i can feel in the bars, about 5 or less mph. Nice howl, not loud, mid 30s mph. Might be starting to cup a little bit, but not enough to know without measuring and I can't be bothered

Happy with the tires.
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Low air pressure? I had this happen to a tyre that had a slow leak.

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Could barely hear your wife huh? I know what my next tire will be.
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The fronts seem to last 12-13K miles. The rears 6-8K . I haven't had any cupping like that on a Shinko.
Depending on the trips, some tires wore on the edges and others sets got worn in the middle, long miles on the Interstate.
Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like my front 705 lasted at least as long as yours do.

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Low air pressure? I had this happen to a tyre that had a slow leak.
I have always been diligent about keeping the front tire air pressure between 32 psi and 36 psi, that is, until this summer I suffered a lapse of attention and the front tire pressure was 27 psi when I checked it after 2 or 3 months from last I filled it to 36 psi. Perhaps the cupping was the result of running for a month or more with that lower tire pressure. Thanks for pointing that out.

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I have always been diligent about keeping the front tire air pressure between 32 psi and 36 psi,.
I'd suggest that 32psi is too low for sealed road riding. Not only will the tyre interact differently on the road the lower pressure will allow heat buildup within the tyre which will accelerate wear. The book says 36psi COLD and many guys here will use 38-40 and more in the rear. From your photo you travel loaded. Low tyre pressures are only for lower speed off seal riding.
You'll find that your bike will be much more nimble, handle differently and tyres will last much longer with a few more psi in them.

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