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post #1 of 11 Old 06-13-2016, 11:03 AM Thread Starter
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Hey guys and gals. I was just wondering peoples opinion on bias or radial tires for my 04 vee. Currently I have radials from previous owner but looking to get a more aggressive tire for back road gravel.
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Shinko 805? It's a knobby
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I was looking at the shinko. Great reviews and cost. But again bias or radial?
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I was looking at the shinko. Great reviews and cost. But again bias or radial?
I went with the radials for about $30-40 more/pair than the bias.
$ 162USD all in. That said, the SET is waiting in the garage for August when I'll put them on for our Alaska trip.

Several threads here on the Shinko 705s if you SEARCH the forum.
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Unless you ride at higher speeds for extended periods of time I wouldn't sweat the bias vs radial. I've ridden both and found the bias to be a bit rougher ride but I'm on a Strom not a wing so it doesn't bother me much. I'm not tearing around at 100mph everywhere I go though either so the lower speed rating of the bias doesn't bother me either.

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The Shinko 804/805 tires or the TKC-80 are good performers. Just short on tread life. I would suggest trying a 804 front and a 705 rear unless your really off road all the time. Make sure your front fender clears the aggressive tread.

Some like to run a TKC-80 front with a Tourance rear. I've done that on tours with lots of dirt roads mixed in. I only get 3500 miles from a rear knobby like a TKC-80, maybe 4000 miles if ran till smooth. 705 gets me 6000 or so. Fronts last about 8,000 or more. 705 Shinkos are a good all terrain option, they perform better than expected in dry conditions and last longer than knobbies. Another option is a more expensive but long lived K60 or E-07 rear and a TKC-80 front if you want premium aggressive rubber. I prefer TKC-80 on the front, you may have noticed.
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The Shinko 804/805 tires or the TKC-80 are good performers. Just short on tread life. I would suggest trying a 804 front and a 705 rear unless your really off road all the time. Make sure your front fender clears the aggressive tread.

Some like to run a TKC-80 front with a Tourance rear. I've done that on tours with lots of dirt roads mixed in. I only get 3500 miles from a rear knobby like a TKC-80, maybe 4000 miles if ran till smooth. 705 gets me 6000 or so. Fronts last about 8,000 or more. 705 Shinkos are a good all terrain option, they perform better than expected in dry conditions and last longer than knobbies. Another option is a more expensive but long lived K60 or E-07 rear and a TKC-80 front if you want premium aggressive rubber. I prefer TKC-80 on the front, you may have noticed.

THis is an example of differences folks get in tire mileage. I routinly got between 8 and 10 thousand miles out of my rear 705s with the fronts getting double that. I would usually change the front due to cupping and feathering before they actually ran out of tread.

My 804/805s, I'm getting 7 to 8 thousand out of a rear and usually change the fronts due to feathering of the twin center blocks than for tread depth.

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Around here my riding buddies all get 5 to 6K from a rear tire on various bikes unless it gets sporty, the GSXR or Blackbird or other bikes shred tires much quicker. We all have our pace sorted out and keep a brisk pace yet not stupid fast. We are all older experienced long distance riders.

I visit motorcycle camp grounds often and get to see lots of tires and the owner feed back. My last camp trip to Cruso had me chatting with an older fellow. His 705 was well rounded, no chicken strips on a 1200 Explorer loaded heavy. He got around 8K from a 705 rear, but he rode very slow, painfully slow. Yet he did lean into corners deep, he just went the speed limit or below and accelerated way smooth. I'm usually 10 mph over riding casually.

The best guys to get tire feed back from, are guys who ride like you do. Me and my buddies all run the same tires on ST bikes and have found the same results because we ride about the same, on the same roads and even like the same motor oil. I just need one of them to buy an ADV bike so we can compare DS tires.
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Thanks for all the replies. I forgot to mention that 7 out of 10 rides is 2up and will be doing multi day touring this year. I am also a 10 over the speed limit rider and will be doing moderate back roads also. I have done quite a bit of reading on the 705's and for the reviews and price I will be getting those. And in my case where almost always is 2up with bags and case, the bias would be the way to go. Stiffer sidewalls for the extra weight.
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