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post #1 of 9 Old 05-31-2016, 11:09 AM Thread Starter
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Metzeler Tourance vs Michelin Pilot Tires

Have a 2005 wee and would like to know other riders experiences. Plan on a 10 week tour from Ireland to Turkey, then north to Poland and then turn west. I am not an aggressive driver and will stay out of the dirt, not sure of all road conditions. The prices are within ten euros and will be replaced for next season. Any thoughts?
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I'm sort of a tire fanatic and in a way it disappoints me that I cannot make a clear choice. Every major MC tire manufacturer makes an excellent product. With a few exceptions, even the cheap Chinese tires are good. They just don't seem to have the treadware of the other name brands. What I have noted is that, among the mainstream companies, price does not equate to quality. For example a tire that retails for $178 is not significantly better than one that retails for $105. The ones you mentioned are 2 of the most popular versions out there and I expect they are very equivalent in most ways. Some riders have a brand preference, others just shop around. I've had poor success with Metzlers and find them over priced but obviously others don't feel this way. I selected the new Bridgestone Battleax BT 023 for my Wee. So far I have about 3000 miles on them and they are great Its simple brand preference. I like the fact that the Bt023 us quite a bit cheaper than the other brands and still gets top ratings. It sounds like you can't really go wrong with either choice. Have a great trip and let us know your experiences.
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I'm sort of a tire fanatic and in a way it disappoints me that I cannot make a clear choice. Every major MC tire manufacturer makes an excellent product. With a few exceptions, even the cheap Chinese tires are good. They just don't seem to have the treadware of the other name brands. What I have noted is that, among the mainstream companies, price does not equate to quality. For example a tire that retails for $178 is not significantly better than one that retails for $105. The ones you mentioned are 2 of the most popular versions out there and I expect they are very equivalent in most ways. Some riders have a brand preference, others just shop around. I've had poor success with Metzlers and find them over priced but obviously others don't feel this way. I selected the new Bridgestone Battleax BT 023 for my Wee. So far I have about 3000 miles on them and they are great Its simple brand preference. I like the fact that the Bt023 us quite a bit cheaper than the other brands and still gets top ratings. It sounds like you can't really go wrong with either choice. Have a great trip and let us know your experiences.
The Bridgestone Battleax BT 023 look like they would be great on the street. Do you ever run on gravel? If so, how did they do?

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The Metzeler Tourance is made for some off-pavement riding. The Michelin Pilot Road 4 is made for on-pavement riding, and may be the best of all for wet pavement.

The Tourance has been updated to the Tourance NEXT: "The latest generation of Enduro Street tyres, featuring new compounds, profiles, structure and tread pattern for unmatched levels of stability, safety on wet and mileage.

Improved wet grip and stability
Improved mileage over previous Tourance EXP
Dual Compound rear sizes
Ideal choice for the latest generation Adventure touring bikes

The Bridgestone Battleax BT-023 has been upgraded to the Battleax S30 Evo: BATTLAX SPORT TOURING T30 EVO | Motorcycle Tires | Bridgestone Corporation

For the original poster, "will stay out of the dirt," I'd look to a Sport Touring tire. Bridgestone Battleax S30, Michelin Pilot Road 4, Avon Storm 3d X-M (maybe best for long tread life), similar tires may be the best choices.

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I have been down twice. Both low sides. Both times on the old Tourance tires. 1200 GS. Not going particularly fast. No warning. Bam. Down. Could not find any reason (other than klutzy rider!?). That being said, the Metzler Next was very good on a recent trip through Italy, Sardinia, & Corsica. 800GS. Some fairly aggressive riding. Seemed very good on pavement but did not ride them on dirt.

I have ridden Michelin PR4's about 40,000 miles (Honda ST1300) and find them excellent (if relatively short life) handling wet or dry.

If I was going to do the ride you are contemplating, I would go with the Tourance Next or the Michelin Anakee 3 based on my experience with the Next(on the 800 GS) and the Anakee on my Wee. I have 15,000 miles on the Anakees and really like them both on pavement and on gravel/dirt. Not so good in mud.

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While the BT023 is a totally road tire, I see its been replaced by the T30. I'll have to check it out. Just a couple of observations; with the increased popularity of adventure/dual sport bikes the manufacturers are scrambling to come up with tires to meet this demand. The original "dual sport" tires; Tourance, Gripster, Karoo, Anakee and many others have been "upgraded" to meet the new demands. But just what are the demands of the new "dual sport" or "adventure" rider? I see them as the 2 wheeled version of the Jeep. That is, a vehicle designed to handle the rigors of off road riding, but that seldom if ever are ridden off road. I ran Pirelli Trails with great success one the slab but these tires were clearly not meant for the rigors of off road. Looking at road tires the trend is toward fewer protrusions and grooves but to more sophisticated carcasses. Multi rubber compounds are designed to give grip on the sidewalls and longevity on the flat portion. Clearly tread wear is the objective. Frequently the new design achieves that goal but gives up another. I'm hard pressed to come up with an recommendation. You just can't find a tire that works for you and stick with it. Some new tires are specifically designed for traction and longevity only to prove worse than the previous version. Clearly no brand offers any superiority over others. I doubt progress will ever stop, which is a good thing, but I sure wish there was a way one could evaluate a new product accurately. The plus side is that you can hardly make a bad choice. Good luck and keep the black side down.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I am looking at the Tourances for a price point. I figure with my style of riding, like my name, I will put about 10K on this trip and will replace them next season. Plan a northern trip to Nordkap and the north countries. Do not want any problems up their for 200 euros. Tortoises go even slower in cold weather.
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I can't talk about Pilots but really like the Regular Tourance (non-Exp Non-Next) on the rear and the Tourance Next for the front. (I liked the Next on the rear but it didn't seem to be any different than the regular to me but wore a bit quicker.)

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Wonder why the Avon TrailRider is not mentioned, as its a 90/10% tire, supposedly good on paved surfaces and hardpacked/gravel roads. Too new?
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