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post #1 of 12 Old 04-03-2016, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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PR4 Trail vs Reg-150/70R-17(69v) = 150/70ZR-17(69W)?

i'm still hunting for my first set of replacement tires for my 2009 DL650.

The OEM Trail Wings have been okay but I wanted to try something different.

I ride 100% street: local county roads, interstate, city streets.

I have read many of the glowing reviews about the Pilot Road 4s.

In doing my research, I came across a vid on the Revzilla site.

They said the PR4 rear Trail was essentially the same compound as the previous PR3.

I was thinking of maybe using a "regular" PR4 not the PR4 Trail.

The "regular" PR4 comes 150/70ZR-17(69V).
The Trail PR4 comes 150/70R-17(69).

Will the "regular" PR4 fit on a 2009 DL650 oem rear rim?

Thanks in advance to those who care to share.

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post #2 of 12 Old 04-03-2016, 10:04 AM
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I have a 2011 650 and have the Pilot Road 3 trails and couldn't be happier. I live in West Virginia and my riding is similar to yours. I chose the Trails if i remember right the amount of harder center surface is slightly wider on the trails. I love them. I have over 7000 miles and still have good tread left. They make the bike handle great and the rain performance is great. I think you will love them. Take care.
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I have an 05 DL1000. Due to the size, I have to run a "trail" front tire but I am using a standard PR4. The rear "trail" will wear faster than the standard PR4. The combo seems to be fairly popular. I only have about 300 miles on them, but so far they are great. Far superior road tire IMO.

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but does anyone know if the the "regular" PR4 sized 150/70ZR-17(69V), will fit the 2009 dl650 oem rim?

what does 70R vs 70ZR mean?

thanks in advance.

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Tire Tech Information - How to Read Speed Rating, Load Index & Service Descriptions
The first letter is the speed rating. You should be good to 150 mph

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Tire Tech Information - How to Read Speed Rating, Load Index & Service Descriptions
The first letter is the speed rating. You should be good to 150 mph
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helpful link.

thank you ;-)

so even though the "Z" is in the size portion of the tire info, it still relates to speed.

then i am assuming that the 150/70ZR-17 would fit on the rear of a 2009 DL650.

anyone say otherwise?

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ZR means zero degree radial belt. Most radial belting is at a slight angle, but not zero degree belting.

The speed rating is W. Whether it is W or V is meaningless to us. Either is more than ample.
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Having run both the PR3 and PR4 Trail series, I would highly recommend NOT running a Trail rear of either model. I got 6500 miles out of the rear PR3 Trial, which caused me to cut a trip short as I was expecting these tires to do better. The PR4 Trail replacement, which is advertised as giving better mileage, did not go past 5600 till it was on the wear bars. Same bike, same basic riding conditions.

While the Micheling PR 3 and 4 tires are first quality, I think we are brain washed that they are the best tires available. Yes, they are good in wet conditions of all kinds. But in my experience other tires don't slip in the rain either. I will tell you that PR3 and PR4 tires do have a tendency to squirm when pushed hard ( think absolutely no chicken strips ) and I think the tread pattern is part of that. Don't really slide, just squirm. For instance, the Bridgestone T-30 handles much better, gets more miles on the rear tire and costs about 2/3 what the PR4 does. I bought the Trail series thinking it would have a thicker carcass for riding gravel and such. It seems to be exactly the same tire as the regular street versions as far as I can tell. Very thin carcass once the tread is worn some. Nothing like the Trailwing, or TKC 70's I have on it now.
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helpful, thank you.

i am presently leaning towards a set of bridgestone battlewings, the mentioned t30 or t30evo or even the a40.

be well.

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