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post #1 of 8 Old 10-18-2015, 05:46 AM Thread Starter
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Mitas E-07 vs. Metzeler Karoo 3

Has anyone used both of these on a V-Strom?
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Hello, I have not used either ,but have done a lot of research and just ordered Mitas E-07 Dakar for my Wee ,for the type of riding I do there are a lot of reviews on you tube and other sites as well .there are a lot of good tires out there I got a good deal on a set from Motorace ,spoke to Dave ,they should have the regular E-07 rear in a few days they have the fronts in stock .Good luck with picking a tire .
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Sorry did not see where you are located until after i posted .
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No worries. I have used 2 sets of Karoo 3's which are great on and off road but give poor mileage - especially at speed on seal. 2 rears + 1 front about 16,000km/10,000 miles if you keep the speed down. I wondered if the Mitas E07 might be as good but perhaps last a little longer. I guess I might have to try them to find out.

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Hello, I have not used either ,but have done a lot of research and just ordered Mitas E-07 Dakar for my Wee ,for the type of riding I do there are a lot of reviews on you tube and other sites as well .there are a lot of good tires out there I got a good deal on a set from Motorace ,spoke to Dave ,they should have the regular E-07 rear in a few days they have the fronts in stock .Good luck with picking a tire .
I was surprised to see that you ordered the E07 Dakar as I was told these are the tubed versions. I don't even carry a 12mm hex key to remove the front wheel and think that I am far more likely to get myself going again easily if I carry a tubeless puncture kit.
I checked at the local shop who rang the Australian importer who said that they now only import the tubeless type, so I ordered a couple.
It will be interesting to compare them to the Karoo 3.

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I was surprised to see that you ordered the E07 Dakar as I was told these are the tubed versions. I don't even carry a 12mm hex key to remove the front wheel and think that I am far more likely to get myself going again easily if I carry a tubeless puncture kit.
I checked at the local shop who rang the Australian importer who said that they now only import the tubeless type, so I ordered a couple.
It will be interesting to compare them to the Karoo 3.
the E07 Dakars i have are tubeless

I've been running em for about 6000 miles, they are wearing well, decent gravel road tire, so so dry pavement tire, not so inspiring in the wet

yesterday morning was the first time I experienced a "winter condition" we haven't had snow yet, but enuf cold weather that frost is in the ground a few inches already, then it rained day before yesterday, on gravel roads top half inch is thawed, so kinda slick & a little mushy, I wasn't freaking out, but the tires were moving around a bit, did not track as well as the Karoo Ts I have run in the past (I haven't tried Karoo 3s yet) and nowhere near as well as my "winter tire" combo, a studded Karoo T in front and darkside in the back with a General Altimax Arctic



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Sorry I though that only the tubed tyres had the "Dakar" label. I can get 7,000 miles out of a Karoo 3 front, but only half that out of a rear and that is if I keep the pressures up and the speed down to 100kms/hr.
I should shortly be able to give a comparison between the two but we don't get a lot of frost or slushy snow in Queensland.

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Thumbs up Mitas E-07 vs. Metzeler Karoo 3 comparison.

I had Mitas E-07's fitted to my WeeStrom on Tuesday but not the Dakar version which has a 4th ply for "a more rigid carcass and greater puncture resistance".
I took them straight out for 120kms to bed them in. Yesterday I checked the pressures and went on one of my favourite 350km loops which has 10% motorway, 20% dirt and 70% sometimes very rough and narrow back sealed roads.
On seal the E-07's are at least as good as the Karoo 3's showing neutral handling and no tendency at all to wander on patches or track along seams in the seal. I could even brake into corners with no tendency to stand up. One corner caught me out and I was so impressed I deliberately tried it a few more times for fun. The K3 is also good but not as neutral as the E-07. I have found that the K3 is very nervous until bedded in, whereas the E-07 is not.
On dirt the front E-07 is less susceptible to small bumps and ripples or even hitting stones on hardpack. Definitely less impact/vibration through the bars - perhaps the 3 ply vs. 4 ply?
The E-07 was also superior on loose surfaces, but only just. I liked the K3 as they were so much more confidence inspiring everywhere than the terrible OEM Trail Wings but the E-07's are even better still. I rode up a very steep and rutted hard pack dirt road with a covering of dirt and stones and neither end ever slipped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ru...ature=youtu.be Karoo's = 8, E-07's = 9.
I did not drag a peg on the seal but I would think that the Karoo 3 should be better here as the E-07's outside tread is knobbly like which is no doubt why they are better in deep dirt/gravel. However you can still punt your V-strom down any winding road at a very respectable pace without having to worry about the patches or poor surface that would have most R1 pilots easing off. I have yet to wear in the very outside knobs even after some spirited riding but 50 years in the saddle has shown me that those who ride 10/10ths don't do so for more than a year or two.
The biggest advantage to me though is the silence of the E-07's. Those that think they are noisey should try a K3 front as it fair howls at 60-80km/hr just where you spend most of your time around town.
Summary:
Seal Pretty much equal but a peg dragger might find the K3 preferable as the K3 has more rubber on the road at full lean.
Dirt - The E-07 is a nose ahead for its better manners in deeper loose surfaces.
I have yet to try them in the wet..
I chose E-07's after reading that they give better mileage than the K3. So far they seem to be at least as good everywhere and cheaper, so to last longer is now a bonus.
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