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post #1 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
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My Epic FAIL / how NOT to change a tire

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Listen closely young Jedi, so fail you do not! Like this one hmmm?

First off a little background on myself I'm 58 and in good physical shape. In my early twenties I worked for a trucking company changing tires on semi trucks. We did it all with hand tools, so even though it was a long time ago I figured I was a natural to change my own motorcycle tires.
I bought all the necessary tools, wheel balancer, wheel weights, valve stems and new tires. All this added up to more than the cost to have a new set of tires installed at the dealer but I figured I'd have the tools now and do all my own changes.
So I begin, I get the rear wheel off pretty smoothly and I broke the bead using a long 2x4 to pry down on the bead, this method is all over the internet and with a little effort it worked pretty well, so far so good, I'm feeling pretty good about myself at this point. Then I remove the old tire, again after a little fumbling and sweat I got it off. Still good.
Now on with the new tire, I put my rim savers on, lube up the tire and start levering on the new one. Almost immediately one of the pry bars that I really have my back into slips off and I go flying forward and smash my finger on a sharp edge on the hub! #%*+*^%!!! Ok ok just give me a minute to regroup, it hurts like hell but the show must go on. After about 20 minutes of wrestling tire and tire irons I finally get it on. I am completely winded and sit down to rest. As I'm sitting there, looking at the tire I realize I forgot all about directional rotation. I'm thinking I've got a 50/50 chance that it's right. If you guessed that it was wrong, give that man a Cupie doll! I'm thinking " Oh man! Now I've gotta pry that sucker off and do it all over again!"
So here we go again, only this fresh tire is much harder to remove than the old one. When I finally get it off I notice that somehow I pinched a tiny piece of the bead off, just a little spot smaller than a match head. ImageUploadedByMO Free1432507891.644006.jpg
I'm thinking not much I can do about it but forge ahead and see what happens. After another exhausting round of wrestling tire irons and needing three hands I finally get it on and fill it with air and I soap up the bead to make sure it's airtight. No such luck, the bead has a very tiny stream of bubbles coming from it. The tire has been ruined. Crap! Crap! Crap!
That's it! I'm done! I give up! I'll pay the bastards whatever they want! I'm out!
So let's recap,
One smashed finger.....check!
$231 dollars worth of tires I can't use....check!
$83 dollars worth of tire tools soon to be listed for sale......check!
One new torque wrench and metric sockets set that Harbour freight probably won't let me return....check!
One motorcycle rendered un rideable ...check!
A trip to the dealer where I have to explain why I want him to take that brand new tire off and throw it in the trash and please let me pay you another $350 to mount a set of tires for me ...check, check , check!!!!!!
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'72 Honda XL250
'73 Yamaha RD350
'75 Yamaha XT500
'76 Yamaha XS650
'78 Yamaha XS750
'77 BMW R100/7
'76 Triumph Bonneville T140-V
'07 Triumph Bonneville America
'11 Suzuki V Strom 650
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post #2 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 07:14 PM
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Sorry for your hand and wallet pain, but thank you for the good laugh. I feel much better about paying $46 last week to have the shop mount a set of tires.

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post #3 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 08:33 PM
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Euuueerrggh... I've had to do the "reverse my freshly mounted tire" thing a few times.

I think more riders should change their own tires, but the #1 rule above all else to remember is: if you're using a lot of force, you're doing something wrong.

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post #4 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 10:40 PM
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You could get a proper sized tube and at least save the tire. I just finished spinning on my first tire. Could have gone smoother and quicker but I got it done. Learned a few things and I am sure that the next one will go better as will the next. And so on.
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post #5 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 10:57 PM
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Try to seal it with ULTRASEAL

I think Ultraseal will take care of your leak. It may be a little difficult to get but I think it is quite potent. If you make sure it gets to the leak area after you filled the tire with the prescribed quantity, put pressure on I think it will be ok. and seal the hole.
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post #6 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 11:14 PM
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Ealier this year I decided to replace my chain and sprockets myself. I cut the chain too short. I also screwed up replacing the clutch slave cylinder. I tried all the DIY fixes to no avail, so the bike got trailered to the dealership ($100) plus $300 in labour and other bits and pieces. Having said that I now know the mistakes I made and I think I could do the work again with no problems.
I've thought about replacing my own tyres but after the chain replacement adventure I've decided to scale back my DIY work and just use my weekends to try and enjoy myself. I'm too old for this s***.

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post #7 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 11:15 PM
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go to the Utube and look up the zip tie method of changing a motor cycle tire.
it works great and is cheep.

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post #8 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bwringer View Post

I think more riders should change their own tires, but the #1 rule above all else to remember is: if you're using a lot of force, you're doing something wrong.
Absofreakinlutely the truth!


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post #9 of 21 Old 05-24-2015, 11:34 PM
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I change my own unless they have stiff sidewalls like the Michelin Anakee 3's, then it's worth it to bring the wheels to my local dealer and pay the $30 for each tire.

Working with two people also makes it far easier, and I've had to use the green slime to seal a rim-leak.

-Tom (DL650AL2) (KA1TOX) (E-I-E-I-O)

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post #10 of 21 Old 05-25-2015, 02:20 AM
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Wow that sucks! Sorry for your pain. Thanks for the laugh, and again for the total feeling of insecurity. I carry a kit in the top box of my bike for road side issues. Have a set of irons in there just in case I need to do an R&R of the tire. I've just never actually done a motorcycle tire. Sure done some tire's in my time, just never on the bike. Pretty concomitant mech too. But now I'm thinking I may have a false sense of security, oh well. Just gonna keep riding. Best of luck, hope your on the road soon.

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